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mjromeo81

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2022
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Thoughts on OpenClaw? IMO this is a disaster waiting to happen.

The current hype around agentic workflows completely glosses over the fundamental security flaw in their architecture: unconstrained execution boundaries. Tools that eagerly load context and grant monolithic LLMs unrestricted shell access are trivial to compromise via indirect prompt injection. If an agent is curling untrusted data while holding access to sensitive data or already has sensitive data loaded into its context window, arbitrary code execution isn't a theoretical risk. It is an inevitability.

Let's give a vibe coded monster autonomous access to my private data and sensitive files, messaging platforms, and system commands - what can go wrong? From a misconfiguration/exposure perspective this could potentially be catastrophic.
 

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Wings

Banter era connoiseur
Contributor
Jul 15, 2002
23,406
Thoughts on OpenClaw? IMO this is a disaster waiting to happen.

The current hype around agentic workflows completely glosses over the fundamental security flaw in their architecture: unconstrained execution boundaries. Tools that eagerly load context and grant monolithic LLMs unrestricted shell access are trivial to compromise via indirect prompt injection. If an agent is curling untrusted data while holding access to sensitive data or already has sensitive data loaded into its context window, arbitrary code execution isn't a theoretical risk. It is an inevitability.

Let's give a vibe coded monster autonomous access to my private data and sensitive files, messaging platforms, and system commands - what can go wrong? From a misconfiguration/exposure perspective this could potentially be catastrophic.
You guys read about that crazy shit moltbot aka clawbot aka openclaw? What a security threat! Will be fun watching prompt injection attacks taking over so many clueless users.
It's already a headache with IT playing whack a mole with this agentic shit. The real fun will begin when prompt injection attacks start.
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
21,848
I love this part of Chatgpt which always provide me a solution when get stuck while coding and struggle to write code, with just a simple prompt, I can ask AI to write an entire program

"""
Security Log Analyzer
ویژگی‌ها:
1. تحلیل لاگ‌های مختلف
2. تشخیص الگوهای حمله
3. تولید گزارش امنیتی
4. یکپارچه‌سازی با SIEM
"""

import re
from collections import Counter
from datetime import datetime, timedelta
import pandas as pd
from typing import List, Dict, Tuple

class LogAnalyzer:
"""تحلیل‌گر لاگ امنیتی"""

# الگوهای حمله
ATTACK_PATTERNS = {
'SQL Injection': [
r"union.*select",
r"'.*or.*'1'='1",
r"select.*from",
r"insert.*into",
r"drop.*table",
r"' OR '1'='1",
r"--",
r";--",
r"/*",
r"*/",
r"@@version",
r"waitfor delay"
],
'XSS Attack': [
r"<script>",
r"alert\(",
r"onerror=",
r"onload=",
r"javascript:",
r"eval\(",
r"document\.cookie",
r"<iframe",
r"<img src=",
r"onmouseover="
],
'Brute Force': [
r"Failed password",
r"authentication failure",
r"Invalid user",
r"Too many authentication failures",
r"POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT",
r"bad password attempt"
],
'Port Scan': [
r"port scan",
r"SYN flood",
r"connection attempts",
r"multiple connections from",
r"scan detected"
],
'DoS Attack': [
r"Denial of Service",
r"flooding",
r"rate limit exceeded",
r"too many requests",
r"connection limit"
]
}

def __init__(self):
self.logs = []
self.detected_attacks = []
self.stats = Counter()

def load_logs(self, file_path: str):
"""بارگذاری لاگ‌ها"""
print(f" بارگذاری لاگ‌ها از {file_path}...")

try:
with open(file_path, 'r', encoding='utf-8') as f:
self.logs = f.readlines()
print(f"✅ {len(self.logs)} خط لاگ بارگذاری شد")
except Exception as e:
print(f"❌ خطا در بارگذاری: {e}")

def analyze(self) -> Dict:
"""تحلیل لاگ‌ها"""
print(" شروع تحلیل لاگ‌ها...")

for i, log in enumerate(self.logs):
log_lower = log.lower()

for attack_type, patterns in self.ATTACK_PATTERNS.items():
for pattern in patterns:
if re.search(pattern, log_lower, re.IGNORECASE):
self.detected_attacks.append({
'line_number': i + 1,
'attack_type': attack_type,
'log_snippet': log[:100] + "...",
'pattern': pattern,
'timestamp': self.extract_timestamp(log)
})
self.stats[attack_type] += 1
break # فقط یک حمله در هر خط

return self.generate_report()

def extract_timestamp(self, log: str) -> str:
"""استخراج تایم‌استمپ از لاگ"""
# الگوهای مختلف تایم‌استمپ
patterns = [
r'\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2} \d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2}',
r'\d{2}/\d{2}/\d{4} \d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2}',
r'\[(.*?)\]' # تایم‌استمپ داخل براکت
]

for pattern in patterns:
match = re.search(pattern, log)
if match:
return match.group()

return "unknown"

def generate_report(self) -> Dict:
"""تولید گزارش"""
print(" تولید گزارش...")

# آمار کلی
total_attacks = sum(self.stats.values())
most_common = self.stats.most_common(3)

# توزیع زمانی
time_distribution = self.analyze_time_distribution()

# IPهای مشکوک
suspicious_ips = self.extract_suspicious_ips()

report = {
'summary': {
'total_logs': len(self.logs),
'total_attacks': total_attacks,
'attack_rate': f"{(total_attacks/len(self.logs)*100):.1f}%" if self.logs else "0%",
'most_common_attacks': most_common,
'analysis_time': datetime.now().isoformat()
},
'details': {
'attack_types': dict(self.stats),
'time_distribution': time_distribution,
'suspicious_ips': suspicious_ips,
'sample_attacks': self.detected_attacks[:10] # ۱۰ نمونه اول
},
'recommendations': self.generate_recommendations()
}

# ذخیره گزارش
self.save_report(report)

return report

def analyze_time_distribution(self) -> Dict:
"""تحلیل توزیع زمانی حملات"""
distribution = Counter()

for attack in self.detected_attacks:
timestamp = attack['timestamp']
if timestamp != "unknown":
# استخراج ساعت
hour_match = re.search(r'(\d{2}):\d{2}:\d{2}', timestamp)
if hour_match:
hour = hour_match.group(1)
distribution[hour] += 1

return dict(distribution)

def extract_suspicious_ips(self) -> List[str]:
"""استخراج IPهای مشکوک"""
ip_pattern = r'\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}'
ips = []

for attack in self.detected_attacks:
ip_matches = re.findall(ip_pattern, attack['log_snippet'])
ips.extend(ip_matches)

# فقط IPهای تکراری (مشکوک)
ip_counts = Counter(ips)
suspicious = [ip for ip, count in ip_counts.items() if count > 5]

return suspicious[:10] # ۱۰ IP اول

def generate_recommendations(self) -> List[str]:
"""تولید توصیه‌های امنیتی"""
recommendations = []

if self.stats['SQL Injection'] > 0:
recommendations.append(
"فیلتر کردن ورودی‌های کاربر در برنامه‌های وب"
)

if self.stats['Brute Force'] > 0:
recommendations.extend([
"فعال‌سازی محدودیت تعداد لاگین ناموفق",
"استفاده از احراز هویت دو عاملی"
])

if self.stats['Port Scan'] > 0:
recommendations.append(
"پیکربندی فایروال برای محدود کردن اسکن پورت"
)

if self.stats['DoS Attack'] > 0:
recommendations.extend([
"استفاده از سرویس‌های DDoS Protection",
"پیاده‌سازی Rate Limiting"
])

if not recommendations:
recommendations.append("وضعیت امنیتی مطلوب است")

return recommendations

def save_report(self, report: Dict):
"""ذخیره گزارش"""
filename = f"security_report_{datetime.now().strftime('%Y%m%d_%H%M%S')}.json"

import json
with open(filename, 'w', encoding='utf-8') as f:
json.dump(report, f, indent=2, ensure_ascii=False)

print(f"✅ گزارش در {filename} ذخیره شد")

# ذخیره به صورت CSV برای تحلیل بیشتر
self.save_to_csv(report)

def save_to_csv(self, report: Dict):
"""ذخیره به CSV"""
df_data = []

for attack in self.detected_attacks:
df_data.append({
'line_number': attack['line_number'],
'attack_type': attack['attack_type'],
'pattern': attack['pattern'],
'timestamp': attack['timestamp']
})

if df_data:
df = pd.DataFrame(df_data)
csv_filename = f"attacks_{datetime.now().strftime('%Y%m%d_%H%M%S')}.csv"
df.to_csv(csv_filename, index=False, encoding='utf-8-sig')
print(f" داده‌ها در {csv_filename} ذخیره شد")

# استفاده
def main():
analyzer = LogAnalyzer()

# بارگذاری لاگ‌های نمونه
analyzer.load_logs("sample_logs.txt")

# تحلیل
report = analyzer.analyze()

# نمایش نتایج
print("\n" + "="*50)
print("گزارش امنیتی")
print("="*50)

summary = report['summary']
print(f"\n آمار کلی:")
print(f" کل لاگ‌ها: {summary['total_logs']}")
print(f" کل حملات: {summary['total_attacks']}")
print(f" نرخ حمله: {summary['attack_rate']}")

print(f"\n شایع‌ترین حملات:")
for attack, count in summary['most_common_attacks']:
print(f" {attack}: {count}")

print(f"\n️ توصیه‌های امنیتی:")
for i, rec in enumerate(report['recommendations'], 1):
print(f" {i}. {rec}")

# if __name__ == "__main__":
# main()
 

Fab Fragment

Senior Member
Dec 22, 2018
5,074
I'm still confused; is Anthropic really that conscientious about upholding their moral values by refusing to participate in the mass surveillance of the general population and AI operating weapons?
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
85,865
Of course he doesn’t. He fits right in with the rest of the tech bros out to ruin humanity.
Did you read the back story? Two days before Sloppenheimer was giving Amodei high-fives of support for standing up to the US DoD on social media, he was already advancing OpenAI's own plans to secure government contracts a couple days prior. Within 24 hours of posting that support, he accepts the DoD's terms that Anthropic wouldn't.... including a $25 million donation made to a Trump PAC that was paid a couple days prior.

Apparently Amodei forgot his checkbook. And yeah, Altman is a complete snake.

I once worked for a university lab in Maryland that did a lot of government work, and much of it for the DoD. I had a secret clearance (the lowest level though), which required having FBI inspectors crawling up the asses of all my family and neighbors asking questions about me and my reliability as a non-Russian asset. Back when Russia wasn't cool. (I miss those days.)

We had to go through mandatory anti-corruption training every year: protocols for rejecting gifts, ensuring that there wasn't undue influence on government contract decisions with a vendor who paid for hookers and blow, etc. And we had to re-certify every year.

And here I learn that a Trump PAC is exempt from all those anti-corruption rules now.

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-whole-thing-was-scam
 
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icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
36,881
Did you read the back story? Two days before Sloppenheimer was giving Amodei high-fives of support for standing up to the US DoD on social media, he was already advancing OpenAI's own plans to secure government contracts a couple days prior. Within 24 hours of posting that support, he accepts the DoD's terms that Anthropic wouldn't.... including a $25 million donation made to a Trump PAC that was paid a couple days prior.

Apparently Amodei forgot his checkbook. And yeah, Altman is a complete snake.

I once worked for a university lab in Maryland that did a lot of government work, and much of it for the DoD. I had a secret clearance (the lowest level though), which required having FBI inspectors crawling up the asses of all my family and neighbors asking questions about me and my reliability as a non-Russian asset. Back when Russia wasn't cool. (I miss those days.)

We had to go through mandatory anti-corruption training every year: protocols for rejecting gifts, ensuring that there wasn't undue influence on government contract decisions with a vendor who paid for hookers and blow, etc. And we had to re-certify every year.

And here I learn that a Trump PAC is exempt from all those anti-corruption rules now.

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-whole-thing-was-scam
I saw a fireside chat recently where Temu Elon basically conceded that people aren't adopting AI at the rate they expected it to be consumed. So dude promises AGI like it's Tesla full self driving aka coming next year. What did it take, 10 years? - to go from founding something to stop AI from taking over humanity to drop all pretense and make something to enshittify all human existence. All to make these absurd cash burns make sense.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
38,957
i stopped using chatgpt months ago because i caught it hallucinating all the time. i'd appreciate much more a regular "i don't know" over the confident lie 10 out of 10 times

 

mjromeo81

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2022
1,879
i stopped using chatgpt months ago because i caught it hallucinating all the time. i'd appreciate much more a regular "i don't know" over the confident lie 10 out of 10 times

This is why Generative AI is not and can never be considered a "trusted advisor". It can be a copilot (pun intended) but it still requires a human holding the steering wheel.

Especially in technical domains, GenAI can very easily churn out slop that "looks" right and is syntactically correct, but lets bad data and wrong decisions slip through.

I'm not totally against GenAI. IMO it's good for thought generation and experimentation. Given that it's non-deterministic, randomness helps foster innovation so it is great in creative domains. But for tasks requiring consistent, repeatable outcomes, it's fucking dangerous.
 

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