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salman

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Apr 15, 2005
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For every outlet saying he’ll stay, there’s an equal number saying he’ll go.

The way he celebrated the coppa italia and the CL qualification does not strike me as someone who expects to be fired. I can’t imagine him having not having some sort of win-the-coppa-and-qualify-for-the-CL assurance from Agnelli, hence why seems to be confident of staying.

A manager who expects to get the can would have a very different demeanour IMO.


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Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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He was terrible. The season was pure shit but the squad is really unbalanced, we have no midfield, had no time to prepare and a shit load of injuries in a congested fixture list. Not making excuses but it can't be compared to the last number of seasons especially considering how much stronger Inter and other teams are now. Many managers would of struggled in his situation.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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He was terrible. The season was pure shit but the squad is really unbalanced, we have no midfield, had no time to prepare and a shit load of injuries in a congested fixture list. Not making excuses but it can't be compared to the last number of seasons especially considering how much stronger Inter and other teams are now. Many managers would of struggled in his situation.
Not as bad as him though. I'm not sure why people keep bringing these reasons up.

The squad showed it's potential in glimpses especially in the last game. There's no way this squad is as bad as relying on Verona to make CL.

We are really not THAT BAD to lower our standards and think we're merely top 4 quality. Look at the squads that finished above us. They were in a similar situation too. Forget about winning the title, we didn't even come close to challenging it. Heck, Milan were more of a title contender than us this season.

Has the winemaker hypnotized some people here?
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Not as bad as him though. I'm not sure why people keep bringing these reasons up.

The squad showed it's potential in glimpses especially in the last game. There's no way this squad is as bad as relying on Verona to make CL.

We are really not THAT BAD to lower our standards and think we're merely top 4 quality. Look at the squads that finished above us. They were in a similar situation too. Forget about winning the title, we didn't even come close to challenging it. Heck, Milan were more of a title contender than us this season.

Has the winemaker hypnotized some people here?
The teams above us all had coaches who were already at their teams and they had experience. Let's be real; that's a huge difference.

But yeah, of course we're much better than scraping for a top-4 finish. It was coming 'though.
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
2,330
He was terrible. The season was pure shit but the squad is really unbalanced, we have no midfield, had no time to prepare and a shit load of injuries in a congested fixture list. Not making excuses but it can't be compared to the last number of seasons especially considering how much stronger Inter and other teams are now. Many managers would of struggled in his situation.
I'd agree that we have no midfield if our mid was made out of only Portanovas and Fagioli's, but that's not the case. guess which midfield is ours from the transfermarkt data of top7 Serie A teams: (juventus, inter, roma, milan, napoli, atalanta, lazio)

1.
avg.age 24.17
avg.value €28.03m

2.
28.50
€24.20m

3.
26.00
€23.38m

4.
23.63
€22.85m

5.
24.86
€22.73m

6.
26.71
€19.29m

7.
28.29
€12.97m
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
29,053
The teams above us all had coaches who were already at their teams and they had experience. Let's be real; that's a huge difference.

But yeah, of course we're much better than scraping for a top-4 finish. It was coming 'though.
We don't have a bunch of toddlers at the club who need babysitting though. This is a serial winning team. The drop in performances was way too drastic. You're painting a picture as if Pirlo had to work with a whole new squad altogether who never had winning experience.

Is this 'this was coming' a way to justify Pirlo's incompetency? I know you're a winemaker apologist but please try to be reasonable here.

This team has played 50+ games this season and there was barely any progress. Again, just because it's his first year at the job, that doesn't justify keeping him. Since when did we become Arsenal happy to accept mediocre results?

I don't see a process or a project here. All I see is an overproud clown who's way above his head with his 'philosophy'. He needs to be brought down to earth and ideally work in a low pressure environment so he could improve as a manager. Juventus is not that place, sorry.
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
4,392
From the front pages of GdS

Pirlo edges closer to Juventus exit: Real Madrid unsure about Allegri, Juventus try again
Max, look who’s back!
There’s an intrigue between Agnelli and Florentino, but the former Bianconeri coach is in pole for the job, ahead of Zidane.
Despite two trophies and a top four finish, Pirlo has little chance of staying, the Old Lady want a top coach.

Taken from here

https://www.football-italia.net/todayspapers/171153
 

Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
3,135
even if this season doesnt look so bad at the end when u look at the two trophies, he has to be sacked. We played good only at the beggining when his ideas werent implemented to the team, when he had a time to train us we turned shit and last 2 games of the season wont change it.
Sack him please and get proper manager, because there is no hope with him.
 

JuventinMalti

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Apr 5, 2006
569
For every outlet saying he’ll stay, there’s an equal number saying he’ll go.

The way he celebrated the coppa italia and the CL qualification does not strike me as someone who expects to be fired. I can’t imagine him having not having some sort of win-the-coppa-and-qualify-for-the-CL assurance from Agnelli, hence why seems to be confident of staying.

A manager who expects to get the can would have a very different demeanour IMO.


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I wouldn't read too much into it. First because he doesn't necessarily know what his fate holds. Maybe it's just his assumption that winning and qualifying for CL will keep his job. Also, if he intends on continuing his coaching career, winning the Coppa (along with a Super Coppa) in the first season will look semi-decent on paper, because performances will dwindle in the collective memory
 

Juliano13

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May 6, 2012
4,820
It’s a cheap solution, if he’s a disaster they’ll fire him by Christmas.

I think they wanted to try him out before committing all that money for Poch or whoever. If it works, great, if it doesn’t they’ll get an established name.

Still a huge risk but they blew their money on Sarri so here we are.
I wish that were true.
 

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