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[Dostoevsky]

It's Че́хов anyway.

 

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[Joaco]

haha, damn: three ways to write the same name

 

[Fred]

It's Че́хов anyway.

Well that settles it

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

so you are saying that he is also weak and conveniently chose the group he was born into?

That's a lot of assumptions there. How do you know he didn't research other religions? you 2 don't know anything about him, yet both of you conveniently make generalizations about him.

I'd say both of you are the weak ones for needing to to constantly attack him by targeting his religion. That screams weakness, lack of character and insecurity to me.

grow up you two and get back to doing what you two do best.....


...bullying people who actually deserve it.

fred started it, how dare he insult my opinion of "the corporation"

 

[Joaco]

chekhov you mean lermontov and pushkin all the way for me

What about Tolstoi? Thought you were a Tolstoi fan.

 

[Fred]

"Fred started it"?

What are we in 4th grade now?

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

i got confused because of your belief in Santa

 

[GordoDeCentral]

What about Tolstoi? Thought you were a Tolstoi fan.

i am but i got a soft spot for the 2 poets, plus both died a cool death: Dueling

 

[Henry]

I don't know. I have the Brother Karamazov in dead tree format, but I fear starting it for how huge it is. I haven't read any others of his.

go for it, it's wonderful.
love chekhov, wonderful short stories

 

[mikhail]

I'm deep into Smoke and Mirrors, Neil Gaiman's first collection of short stories. I haven't been blown away with his novels (I've read three, and they were all good, but overhyped), but his short stories are great.

 

[Lion]

oh yeah? well I'll look at that.

I read his novel American gods and thought it was good, but not a book that makes a lasting impression.

 

[mikhail]

Yeah, that was my take on American Gods too (and Neverwhere), which was disappointing for a book that won half a dozen major awards.

 

[Guardian]

Neverwhere was one of my fav fantasy books when I was schoolboy. I loved the idea of Floating market and the creatures there. American Gods is pile of shit though, I find it a bit offensive. I haven't read fantasy book for years though

 

[Elvin]

There's something I've been curious about. A lot of you mentioned Russian writers. Do you guys think their work loses anything in translation? What do you think of translated art works in general? Do you feel they're able to "translate" the writers brilliance from his original tongue?

 

[mikhail]

There's something I've been curious about. A lot of you mentioned Russian writers. Do you guys think their work loses anything in translation? What do you think of translated art works in general? Do you feel they're able to "translate" the writers brilliance from his original tongue?

It depends a lot on where the author's brilliance lies. If it's in plot, characters, pacing, etc. then it translates well. If it's in his or her use of language, it's much, much harder.

It depends on the languages involved too - I've read that the translations of The Art of War vary wildly, which I suspect is partly because it's written in something very unlike English. Russian should translate better (though I've found translations from Russian to be a bit clunky).

 

[Henry]

There's something I've been curious about. A lot of you mentioned Russian writers. Do you guys think their work loses anything in translation? What do you think of translated art works in general? Do you feel they're able to "translate" the writers brilliance from his original tongue?

I agree with Mikhail that it depends on the author. One who's brilliance lies mainly in their use of language, then it's very, very difficult. I've been hearing about a husband and wife team that's been doing a lot of russian translations, one is a poet, and the other is russian. Certainly it's next to impossible to fully analyse how an author uses language, and the different shades of meaning in particular sentences when the work isn't in the original tongue.

 

[Joaco]

It depends a lot on where the author's brilliance lies. If it's in plot, characters, pacing, etc. then it translates well. If it's in his or her use of language, it's much, much harder.

It depends on the languages involved too - I've read that the translations of The Art of War vary wildly, which I suspect is partly because it's written in something very unlike English. Russian should translate better (though I've found translations from Russian to be a bit clunky).

I agree with Mikhail that it depends on the author. One who's brilliance lies mainly in their use of language, then it's very, very difficult. I've been hearing about a husband and wife team that's been doing a lot of russian translations, one is a poet, and the other is russian. Certainly it's next to impossible to fully analyze how an author uses language, and the different shades of meaning in particular sentences when the work isn't in the original tongue.

I'm agree with both of you. But I think it depends a lot from the translator; he is like a second writer and he must try to find the rights words to give the right pace. Sometimes one word can change a lot the meaning of a phrase. For example: a lot of writers say that Cortazar short-story are perfect because if you erase just one word it lose its sense. Another good example is the Catcher in the rye: translated to spanish is awful, really really really awful.

 

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[Seven]

It depends a lot on where the author's brilliance lies. If it's in plot, characters, pacing, etc. then it translates well. If it's in his or her use of language, it's much, much harder.

It depends on the languages involved too - I've read that the translations of The Art of War vary wildly, which I suspect is partly because it's written in something very unlike English. Russian should translate better (though I've found translations from Russian to be a bit clunky).

Agreed, although I'd say that any translation of any book takes away something from the original. Which is a damn shame because I only speak four languages, so very often I have to make use of translations. I mean, Tolstoj's great and all, but I'm not learning Russian.

 

[Red]

Only four?

How frightfully uncultured.