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Fab Fragment

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Dec 22, 2018
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I feel like everyone ranks Lewandowski, Kane, Suarez, and Benzema in a different order from that generation of strikers.

I'd put Lewandowski over Kane in my career rankings, but it would have been interesting to see Kane spend his entire career at a top club to see what he could have accomplished.

I'm not sure it's fair to penalize him for that, but in a way Buffon suffers from the same thing. If he didnt spend prime years helping build Juve back after Calciopoli and instead chose to play at a top club competing for the top trophies, imagine what his resume could look like.

Again, it's unfair to penalize someone for that, but when you're comparing the elite of the elite, people look at the resumes and the Champions League accomplishments are always toward the top of the list.
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RKid1

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Jun 29, 2020
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Buffon has an unimpeachable resume. He was one of the best players in a World Cup winning squad. That alone is worth more than any number of Champions League trophies.
Yeah but when comparing the greatest keepers, what do people always use against Buffon?

"He never won the Champions League" -- especially when keepers he's often compared to also won a World Cup

If he left Juventus in 2006 for a top club, imagine how many more Champions League appearances/wins/clean sheets he'd have -- not to mention winning the tournament.

Now, his legend is even greater for Juventus fans because he sacrificed individual accomplishments for the club. That's greater to us than anything he could have accomplished elsewhere. Not many elite players would do what he did.

In a similar way, it's the same thing that you can use against Kane when people talk about his lack of trophies. If he played at Bayern, Barca, or Real Madrid like the players he's compared to, his trophy case would be loaded. Instead, people always made fun of him for not winning anything.

If it fair? Probably not. But it's all subjective anyway. If you're in the debates about the all time top 1% of the top 1% of the top 1%, you're pretty special
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Does this mean Liverpool is better than JJ


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Well.. We had our run but in the last decade Liverpool did and looked better..
Anyway I dont expect us to go back to glory days anytime soon. Even if things go our way, the monsters of football will go to Real City PSG and Barcelona with Liverpool and Arsenal also there cash wise.
 

RKid1

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Jun 29, 2020
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it's not. it's a team sport. haaland will never win an international trophy with norway, so in that regard he'll always be inferior to morata or even fekir
Always an idiotic argument that nobody makes.

"it's a team sport" -- no crap. Does that mean people dont compare individual players?
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Always an idiotic argument that nobody makes.

"it's a team sport" -- no crap. Does that mean people dont compare individual players?
how did you come up with this question based on what i wrote?

i just agreed with your "it's probably not fair" assessment, calma
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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how did you come up with this question based on what i wrote?

i just agreed with your "it's probably not fair" assessment, calma
It was a lame argument that he made. There isn’t a single person in the world who thinks Morata had a better career than Ibrahimovic, because he won a Euro and multiple Champions Leagues.
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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Career wise Lewandowski is clear, there's no doubt about it. Prime Lewa was one of the best stikers I've ever seen and the 19-20 season is probably the best individual season of all time from a striker. You could argue Suarez in 15-16 was better, but Lewa helped Bayern to a treble that year and became topscorer in all competitions, be it the Bundesliga, the DFB-Pokal or the Champions League.

Kane is a brilliant striker also and as is slowly but surely cementing his place amongst the greatest. He has a repertoire to his game that Lewandowski never had and I can say that without any bias because I've seen them both week in week out for Bayern.

Kane goes back into midfield or even defense and tackles, wins headers and defend like an ordinary player. He launches balls across the pitch like he's a midfield maestro or Beckenbauer. He simply has way more to his game than just being a clinical number 9.

In short Lewandowski might edge him just with the smallest margin when it comes to being the ultimate number 9 in the box, but only just because they're both insanely clinical. Kane is definitely superior if you look at vision etc. And it's not even because Lewa has poor vision, he assisted 70+ goals in 375 games for Bayern. But Kane does it in a way that is mind blowing. I've never seen a striker being able to do the passing he does and it's not a rare phenomenon with him, he does it on a regular basis.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/--QtVB8YQnA
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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that yt short encapsulates why i'd take prime kane over prime lewa (although i'd take prime lewa over many, many players): he's a complete footballer with high workrate, excellent passing and good vision. he could be a good regista and a very good attacking midfielder too

lewa has always been a pure 9, like klinsmann or vieri. kane has a touch of zidane, platini in his abilities

not to shit on lewandowski of course. i wish vlahovic was half the player prime lewa used to be
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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that yt short encapsulates why i'd take prime kane over prime lewa (although i'd take prime lewa over many, many players): he's a complete footballer with high workrate, excellent passing and good vision. he could be a good regista and a very good attacking midfielder too

lewa has always been a pure 9, like klinsmann or vieri. kane has a touch of zidane, platini in his abilities

not to shit on lewandowski of course. i wish vlahovic was half the player prime lewa used to be
Only his receding hairline can compete in sex appeal with those passes.
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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that yt short encapsulates why i'd take prime kane over prime lewa (although i'd take prime lewa over many, many players): he's a complete footballer with high workrate, excellent passing and good vision. he could be a good regista and a very good attacking midfielder too

lewa has always been a pure 9, like klinsmann or vieri. kane has a touch of zidane, platini in his abilities

not to shit on lewandowski of course. i wish vlahovic was half the player prime lewa used to be
Kane is such an outstanding footballer and I remember many English football fans saying he was just as good if not better than Lewandowski while he was playing for Tottenham. Back then I would never admit such a thing as it would be nearly blasphemy, but I also genuinly didn't know just how great he was because I didn't watch Tottenham games or many PL games for that matter.

But now I can say they were truly right in their assessment, he's just an insanely good footballer, not just striker.

Who I'd take is really difficult to say because both are elite and amongst the best ever in their position. I'm just grateful they both played for Bayern München.
 
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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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Going back in time to 2016 would you guys have preferred Lewandowski, Kane or we stick with Higuain?

The real answer is we should have gone all in for Ronaldo two years early but let's forget that for now.
 

RKid1

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Jun 29, 2020
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Going back in time to 2016 would you guys have preferred Lewandowski, Kane or we stick with Higuain?

The real answer is we should have gone all in for Ronaldo two years early but let's forget that for now.
Neither of Ronaldo or Lewandowski would have been available or would have left to join Juventus.

Harry Kane is the obvious answer here because of his age and not being at what is considered a top club. But again, Tottenham would have never sold him, and I doubt he would have left for any club at that point.

Higuain was awesome for us, but that was a short-sighted "win now" signing to try to get to the top of Europe. It almost worked.
 

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