Cristiano Giuntoli (30 Viewers)

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,191
That's because he was up against the great man all that time :beppe:
That man is one of the reasons , but let's not forget financial power .
I belive crapoli only had 1/3 of juve's salary budget .
Another reason is Allegri who managed to find a balance between victories, ugly victories ,busy schedule and right tactics .

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@kappa96 Maybe he was brought here to bring us back from serie B in the next few seasons.
Who knows ? He might be a mole.
Only time will tell.
And we got the right people for that .
A former interista and a former napolitano :)
 

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Xperd

'Toli Throater
Jun 1, 2012
33,472
That's because he was up against the great man all that time :beppe:
You forgot much bigger budget and managing a club with huge winning pedigree. Also bought their best player to kill any chances of winning a league title.

Juventus have 38 scudetti in 127 years of their history. A scudetto every 3 years on an average. Napoli have won 3 scudetti in 98 years. A scudetto every 33 years on an average! Apples to oranges comparison.

By the way fuck Marotta. He's now the president of a club that should've been relegated for match fixing and a team that won a treble at our expense. He's an Inda scumbag through and through now.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
67,672
You forgot much bigger budget and managing a club with huge winning pedigree. Also bought their best player to kill any chances of winning a league title.

Juventus have 38 scudetti in 127 years of their history. A scudetto every 3 years on an average. Napoli have won 3 scudetti in 98 years. A scudetto every 33 years on an average! Apples to oranges comparison.

By the way fuck Marotta. He's now the president of a club that should've been relegated for match fixing and a team that won a treble at our expense. He's an Inda scumbag through and through now.
I definitely agree with that last bit
 

Amer

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2005
10,363
We've been in tougher moments through history.

But we need to stay strong!

Forza Juve!

Remember when we were in Serie B.

Maybe some of you are young and don't remember, but you definitely will next summer.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
60,809
Crazy how this guy get attacked when the market still open and the team hasn't played single official match :lol:

These people are just bored or lashing and projecting their personal frustrations on their favourite club and whoever runs it at the time. Its the same pattern with same individuals for long time. They thrive on negative periods of the club more then the positive ones.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
60,809
At this point there is only one thing we can do.
Go to Milano, find Marotta, apologize, kiss his feet, suck his dick, offer him all the money in the world and beg him to come back.

We lose with every other scenario.

His contract expires 2026, like with most Inter board, and with their ownership being uncertain, pretty sure Marrotta will leave them then. So we just need to wait til then lol
 

Amer

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2005
10,363
These people are just bored or lashing and projecting their personal frustrations on their favourite club and whoever runs it at the time. Its the same pattern with same individuals for long time. They thrive on negative periods of the club more then the positive ones.
Yeah bunch of bitch ass motherfuckers. Go get laid, or something.

OK they might enjoy football and they love Juve, but that's not the point.

The point is they are too negative when they love the club, that's the point.

So yeah, they should go hug a tree or something.
 

athas

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2007
576
I see the hate is somewhat running out of hand. Maybe some can consider this different view and be less stressed.

Juve financial. 2021/2022: -250M. 2022/2023: -120M. 2023/2024: -200M. 2024/2025: Having a new coach with a different idea. Need to reduce the squad's cost as much as possible. You can see we are in a bad financial position.

So here is this season's situation. Giuntoli has a very difficult mission: Build a squad compatible with new coach's idea, while reducing the costs, and making some capital gains. In short, make a revolution with a negative budget. Must sell to buy.

Then, he did something very ambitious and bold. That is, separate the unneeded players (due contract situation, ability, mentality,..) and declare that they have to find a new club. Many insult him for being stupid, that action devalues the players. And they are right, that's the negative side. But what's a positive side? The new squad has less distraction, and completely focus on getting the new idea. It's difficult for me to explain. Let's imagine this. In one group, there are hard-working ones, and there're ones who put half-ass effort while earning 2, 3 times more than the others, lol. This group will work slower and slower, and over time, the hard-working ones will become lazy. You can relate this to your work or your business.

Here's another. Motta values ambition. He wants his players to keep improving, keep pushing to become starters. Tek is a very good GK, Rugani is a very good back-up CB. But both of them have no ambition. Tek talked about retiring after this season, Rugani never has problem being a sub. Let them in the squad can spread this mentality and make things progress slower.

But the negative side is still there, the players's value, already declining after a bad season, now decline even more. Giuntoli's mission become more and more difficult. He needs to sell, and from the potential sells that can happen, explore options to buy, and many things can happen to disturb the plan, and each time he needs to plan again. You say he has a year to plan? How can you know that Arab teams suddenly back out on Tek, or McKennie rejects Aston Villa? Kostic and Mlik injured?.... The sell plan change, and the buy plan must change accordingly.

The reality is that he did fucked up some of the deals already. But he is trying to build and give the new squad best conditions to focus and progress. For that alone, I have patience and cheer for him to success. The welcome wind of change. The 1st half against Aletico Madrid showed that they're progressing very well. Do you remember that Sarri takes months and can't transmit his idea on the pitch? lol

The last thing I say is that he may not have done as badly as some of you think. Until now, he bought DiGregorio, Cabal, Douglas Luis, Thuram, Adzic, and reduced squad's cost ~10M a year, while making ~60M plusvalenza. It means he bought all of those new faces and making money (not lost) along the way.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,006
I see the hate is somewhat running out of hand. Maybe some can consider this different view and be less stressed.

Juve financial. 2021/2022: -250M. 2022/2023: -120M. 2023/2024: -200M. 2024/2025: Having a new coach with a different idea. Need to reduce the squad's cost as much as possible. You can see we are in a bad financial position.

So here is this season's situation. Giuntoli has a very difficult mission: Build a squad compatible with new coach's idea, while reducing the costs, and making some capital gains. In short, make a revolution with a negative budget. Must sell to buy.

Then, he did something very ambitious and bold. That is, separate the unneeded players (due contract situation, ability, mentality,..) and declare that they have to find a new club. Many insult him for being stupid, that action devalues the players. And they are right, that's the negative side. But what's a positive side? The new squad has less distraction, and completely focus on getting the new idea. It's difficult for me to explain. Let's imagine this. In one group, there are hard-working ones, and there're ones who put half-ass effort while earning 2, 3 times more than the others, lol. This group will work slower and slower, and over time, the hard-working ones will become lazy. You can relate this to your work or your business.

Here's another. Motta values ambition. He wants his players to keep improving, keep pushing to become starters. Tek is a very good GK, Rugani is a very good back-up CB. But both of them have no ambition. Tek talked about retiring after this season, Rugani never has problem being a sub. Let them in the squad can spread this mentality and make things progress slower.

But the negative side is still there, the players's value, already declining after a bad season, now decline even more. Giuntoli's mission become more and more difficult. He needs to sell, and from the potential sells that can happen, explore options to buy, and many things can happen to disturb the plan, and each time he needs to plan again. You say he has a year to plan? How can you know that Arab teams suddenly back out on Tek, or McKennie rejects Aston Villa? Kostic and Mlik injured?.... The sell plan change, and the buy plan must change accordingly.

The reality is that he did fucked up some of the deals already. But he is trying to build and give the new squad best conditions to focus and progress. For that alone, I have patience and cheer for him to success. The welcome wind of change. The 1st half against Aletico Madrid showed that they're progressing very well. Do you remember that Sarri takes months and can't transmit his idea on the pitch? lol

The last thing I say is that he may not have done as badly as some of you think. Until now, he bought DiGregorio, Cabal, Douglas Luis, Thuram, Adzic, and reduced squad's cost ~10M a year, while making ~60M plusvalenza. It means he bought all of those new faces and making money (not lost) along the way.
Hello mr. ChatGPT, there is this forum member who made a long ass post. Would you be so kind to summarize it in 2-3 sentences?

Chat gpt:
The forum member is discussing the current situation of Giuntoli, who is tasked with building a new squad within a tight budget by removing underperforming or unneeded players, which has led to criticism for devaluing these players. Despite some setbacks and challenges, he has made significant moves, including new signings and reducing costs, while still making a profit. The member supports Giuntoli's efforts and notes progress in the team's performance.
 

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