Douglas Luiz (69 Viewers)

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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if you rate him on a neutral soccer perspective (completely neutral beyond the player / no sympathy or antipathy):
as you mentioned, the fast vertical pass can only be played, when the specific run is made, or atleast when there is an attempt to run the line. We wonder why we play mostly back to the defenders or sideways, but its lack of attacking movement from our team. Thats why, in my case, i see players like Cambiaso very useful, because he is very good in opening channels/ space and making good movements to disorder the opponent. Of course he makes a lot of errors, but thats because its not a natural thing for him to defend as we do.
Dusan started late to make these runs, but was slow. Chico beside dribbling doesnt see a channel/ does not understand the right movement, thats why i say to sell him cause he is very limited.
Yildiz is still raw, but he is wasted a bit in that wing and to stay there, he needs much more speed.
KM should be the one opening the spaces for those passes, thats why he still played yesterday til the 90 minute because when we got pressed, we hit the ball wide and far to him, but he lacks this physical power to hold up than. Thats why Spalletti asks for a physical striker.
Weston is the best player we have when its about finding spaces and channels, but he is very limited technically and no threat outside the box.
Thats why a Douglas Luiz seems to be very slow on his play, but if you understand the complete picture of the team, its more a sign that there is a lack of skills in terms when it comes to OFF THE BALL skills. Mostly the wingers have to make these runs, Chico doesnt know how to do it, Yildiz is imo not a winger and wasted there. KM is still not in form, and Wes is very limited. Thats why our midfielders actually always seem to be horrible, but its more a lack of option and movement. The irony here is that Koop has very good movement skills, but he somehow completely forgot to play soccer when he has the ball.
Synergy lacks here thats why we will fail and fail again. The playery may be good in some other concepts, but we completely lack a concept at all.
That 'excuse' has been given for a while now for Locatelli. Of course it's been rejected when his name is mentioned ;). But it's true and now it's being used for Douglas Luiz.

Buuuut that's one point where Kolo Muani is a visible upgrade over Vlahovic and co.
 

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Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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And you'd be 100% accurate. Because only a dumb cunt would take this sort of risk. That's how much this management and Spunkletti has fucked us.

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Of course, but look at the mentality of some of the people here. "He has great technique." "He's so smart with the ball."

I think the management and Spunkletti get away with this shit because the stupid fans accept anything, especially the retards in the stadium.

This guy is a loser of epic proportions so he is a perfect fit for everyone involved.
But why are we acting like we had/have better options available in his place?

Do you seriously think that if we were to send him on another loan we’d have suddenly signed Rodri or Reijnders or the likes to replace him?

I’d say you are confusing fans who just hope for the best based on what we have available while the main criticism you have should be aimed at the management primarily, not on fans who watched this preseason and this first official game where Douglas Luiz for all his flaws looked more competent than all our other mids, if anything the ones that were already here are even the more underwhelming.
 

JuventusVienna

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May 17, 2016
737
That 'excuse' has been given for a while now for Locatelli. Of course it's been rejected when his name is mentioned ;). But it's true and now it's being used for Douglas Luiz.

Buuuut that's one point where Kolo Muani is a visible upgrade over Vlahovic and co.
i never used this argument for Locatelli as he is imo completely another type of of midfielder.

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And you'd be 100% accurate. Because only a dumb cunt would take this sort of risk. That's how much this management and Spunkletti has fucked us.

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Of course, but look at the mentality of some of the people here. "He has great technique." "He's so smart with the ball."

I think the management and Spunkletti get away with this shit because the stupid fans accept anything, especially the retards in the stadium.

This guy is a loser of epic proportions so he is a perfect fit for everyone involved.
and look at the mentality to some other ppl here who became hardcore Chico/ Weston McKennie and co fans because they ‚run‘ and cover defensively a lot. still we finish outside CL with them and are trash since they start all the time.

Its a point of view how you see soccer and how much you understand soccer. But most ppl in this forum rate ppl only due to Sympathy and hate those who they dont like from day 1.
But atleast Juve as professional club has not to act like this…
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
11,086
Seeing him start is mind blowing. Rewind to 6 months ago...if anyone told us he would start in the opening round, you'd call them a dumb cunt.
Of course, but look at the mentality of some of the people here. "He has great technique." "He's so smart with the ball."

I think the management and Spunkletti get away with this shit because the stupid fans accept anything, especially the retards in the stadium.

This guy is a loser of epic proportions so he is a perfect fit for everyone involved.
It's insane.

He was absolutely terrible for us. Among the worst players on an already underwhelming team.
And now people are actually happy he's back.


I almost can't wait for DiGregorio to return next season.
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
15,530
Thought he was terrible in the first half but improved in the second.

Far too slow on the ball and positioned himself poorly in that first half.

We need better in midfield than him and Loca.
 

JuventusVienna

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May 17, 2016
737
until now after 2 games combined in Serie A he was the best player for us.

No major errors
dangerous crosses
dictating cleverly the tempo
short and long pass quality
physically the most kilometers covered
often attacked the box

enjoy him, haters
 
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Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
12,168
I'm interested in seeing more of the 4231 with him and Locatelli. Definitely against teams who will park the bus against us. I'd want more muscle against better teams

Im not blown away, but this is better than I remember him the first time around
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
16,791
Feels like both loca and luiz would do better with a third mid next to them. A runner/worker like Sarr would fit, as would a healthy Thuram. But I like how Luiz has played. He looks in shape and also gives them someone to take set pieces, which they somehow didnt have last season.
 

Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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Thought he was terrible in the first half but improved in the second.

Far too slow on the ball and positioned himself poorly in that first half.

We need better in midfield than him and Loca.
I also didn’t like at all how he started the first half, but he did gradually grow into the game and then took the reins in midfield for most parts, was impressed by how much ground he covered too, if anything his attitude and willingness to sacrifice is the most improved aspect of his game, but obviously we still need to add at least one more CM that has the qualities to challenge for a starting spot.
 

DeviAngel

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Oct 3, 2014
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I think that Nico sub unlocked him, he had someone to pass to, someone who will pass the ball to him FORWARD. He simply looked full of confidence and this move made me for the first time feel excited and like him ! It shows what he misses in midfield and I hope he continues to perform with Nico.
 

JuventusVienna

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May 17, 2016
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always said that 2025/2026 we loaned our best midfielder for nothing. DL is surely better than Loca, Koop, Thuram, Wes, Miretti.

He was so hated and is still hated by ppl here.......

From February 2026:
"I think we judged some players very fast without even gving a chance to them:

One example: Douglas Luiz is been critizised here in this forum from ~90% of the people. Reading here you would get the picture of a player, that doesnt even know how to pass 5 meters, so bad his reputation got here already. But on the other side: How fair have we been to him as a club? He never started 2 games in a row! He never ever had a real chance to arrive here. He had always this 15-20 minutes per game, where we played a horrible soccer with mostly a draw result: After bad results always these kind of players got the most of the critics for the situation at this club - a player who had 10 times less playing time than Koop, Loca, Thuram etc. So i cant critizise a player that actually doesnt have any impact to our games (i personally dont count 10minutes every 2-3-4 games here and there).
And here is now the reality: Aston Villa - EMERY: this guy started his 4th consecutive game (in PL not in slow Serie A), in which he played so good, that you think: how the hell is this the player the forum described??? Or is Emery a stupid coach, or our coaches has been stupid. Reality: EMERy had far more success the last years than we, Aston Villa same (they would crash us easily). "
 
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Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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always said that 2025/2026 we loaned our best midfielder for nothing. DL is surely better than Loca, Koop, Thuram, Wes, Miretti.

He was so hated and is still hated by ppl here.......

From February 2026:
"I think we judged some players very fast without even gving a chance to them:

One example: Douglas Luiz is been critizised here in this forum from ~90% of the people. Reading here you would get the picture of a player, that doesnt even know how to pass 5 meters, so bad his reputation got here already. But on the other side: How fair have we been to him as a club? He never started 2 games in a row! He never ever had a real chance to arrive here. He had always this 15-20 minutes per game, where we played a horrible soccer with mostly a draw result: After bad results always these kind of players got the most of the critics for the situation at this club - a player who had 10 times less playing time than Koop, Loca, Thuram etc. So i cant critizise a player that actually doesnt have any impact to our games (i personally dont count 10minutes every 2-3-4 games here and there).
And here is now the reality: Aston Villa - EMERY: this guy started his 4th consecutive game (in PL not in slow Serie A), in which he played so good, that you think: how the hell is this the player the forum described??? Or is Emery a stupid coach, or our coaches has been stupid. Reality: EMERy had far more success the last years than we, Aston Villa same (they would crash us easily). "
I agree he didn’t get enough chances and was largely pushed to the side by Motta while Tudor found him already with a foot out and unmotivated, supposedly struggled physically too that year…

But truth is that in the first season he did eventually get a run of games and a few cameos where he actually cost us by giving away silly PK’s in almost consecutive games which ruined his reputation here completely, maybe those got magnified a bit too much, though as could be seen during his loans last season he didn’t impress there either so something definitely was switched off in him for the past year, which tbh can happen to anyone and is probably subject to many surrounding factors.

This time however he seems to be fully fit again and more determined and motivated than ever before to compete for his spot so hopefully he can keep it up and actually contribute this season.
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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I think that Nico sub unlocked him, he had someone to pass to, someone who will pass the ball to him FORWARD. He simply looked full of confidence and this move made me for the first time feel excited and like him ! It shows what he misses in midfield and I hope he continues to perform with Nico.
Hé lost the ball right after that move.

he played Well though. I welcome Some adventure in our play
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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I agree he didn’t get enough chances and was largely pushed to the side by Motta while Tudor found him already with a foot out and unmotivated, supposedly struggled physically too that year…

But truth is that in the first season he did eventually get a run of games and a few cameos where he actually cost us by giving away silly PK’s in almost consecutive games which ruined his reputation here completely, maybe those got magnified a bit too much, though as could be seen during his loans last season he didn’t impress there either so something definitely was switched off in him for the past year, which tbh can happen to anyone and is probably subject to many surrounding factors.

This time however he seems to be fully fit again and more determined and motivated than ever before to compete for his spot so hopefully he can keep it up and actually contribute this season.
Not enough bonuses in his contract probably ;)
 

Alin

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Not enough bonuses in his contract probably ;)
Not sure much has changed in that regard though, he is still under the same contract here as the previous seasons where he seemed to have semi retired early… but many things did change for him on a personal level since a year ago though, from ending a meme relationship all the way to finally finding a coach that trusts him and is willing to bet on him again.
 

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