Giorgio Chiellini - Director of Football Strategy (70 Viewers)

[Robee]

yeah man, he should have made david to score sitters. he didn't. so he's a fraud

he spent his whole life in football, only one year in management. how the fuck do we think we are to assess him from our armchairs? was he supposed to turn things around at jj? really?

why are we having this discussion is completely beyond me. the most random scapegoat of them all

Well the only real arguement they're using is actually that he's having faith in Spalletti. I can see that. It's the only actual arguement that can be debated. Whether it's valid or not, we'll see...

I personally don't think keeping the coaching position a revolving door is a much better solution...

And Chiellini deserves the benefit of doubt like anyone. He's hasn't had time to prove anything up 'till now. He's hardly done anything positive or negative besides backing Spalletti.

 

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[s4tch]

...He hasn’t done anything of notice as a manager....

sorry buddy, nothing personal against you, but this is exactly the armchair xperd kind of stuff i mentioned

since spalletti took over, jj has the most shots, the least amount of shots conceded, same with xg/xga. it looks like we create, but can't convert. we defend well, but concede easy to save shots. exactly what the famous eye test tells you: david can't score if his life depends on it, digre can't save anything

but that's on chiellini ultimately. okay

And sorry to say this is not Verona or Pisa. At Juve you win or you’re done. Accept it or stay a loser

monza - milan, torino, newcastle, bologna - atalanta, sassuolo - porto, schalke, bayern u19 - fiorentina

just for the record, these are the previous teams of our starters against fiorentina. for the majority, these could be their next team too

can i say that chiellini probably knows more about being at juventus than most of us tuzzers, or now i'm defending an obvious fraud?

 

[Bjerknes]

30+ years of success in football summed up in a single sentence on tuz

i'm used to simplistic messages online and i agree with allegri's bottom line that football is simple, but this one is probably a tiny bit too stripped down even for my taste

it's mostly on the players, buddy. this is not a 90 points squad, very-very far from it. these players lack character, balls, grinta, call it whatever. they can't perform under pressure. that's been the case with juventus players for years. i don't want to single out anyone, but since ronaldo and chiellini himself left/retired, there's not a single true leader in the locker. there are good players, there are physically strong players, there are fast ones, dudes that can shoot, run or tackle, but their character is weak as fuck. there's not a single juventus player from the last 5-6 seasons who left the team and became a star elsewhere. huijsen is the only one whose career only started at juve so it's mostly natural progress for him. the rest plays for monaco, dortmund, atleti as a sub, marseille, lazio, clubs like this. even de ligt, who was ajax's captain at 18, turned out to be mentally weak for a leader. out of our current squad, literally zero players would start for any of our teams during our 9-year scudetto run. maybe vlahovic instead of matri, but even cambiaso over estigarribia is more than debatable lol. tuz would take bentancur back, but he's barely avoiding relegation with spurs. besides huijsen, there's not a single player who left after our last scudetto i'd take back as a starter. i liked savona and some players like soulé or alberto costa obviously had some potential,

so yeah, i could go on, but it's the players. this is a ~70 point squad, let's face it. if locatelli and david scored their penalties we'd be in cl. same if di gregorio wasn't a fucking fraud. and so on.

if our overpaid lazy weak ass motherfuckers believe for a second that their failure is on the coach, that would send the worst possible message. backing the coach in this situation is not a choice, it's the only possible choice for any club manager. and it's just a rumor by some italian _journalist. and spalletti will probably resign anyway

I didn't read the whole thing, sorry. Short attention span today.

We have better players than Verona and Fiorentina. Sorry. The league is crap too, it's not just us.

What you don't understand is we cannot rely on past players to fix our issues because our issues stem from trying to live in the past. He lived through some of our best times and will try to recreate the same culture and environment as before, just like Allegri did. It won't work and we will fail miserably. People will be begging to sack him in another year, just wait and see.

All of you guys just live in the past and it's really sad.

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But begin a good player and being a good manager is two different things.

He hasn’t done anything of notice as a manager.

He’s one of the guys that extended the frauds contract without cl qualification. For the love of god couldn’t we have waited a bit longer ?? Now he’s on 6 mil net which is ridiculous….

And sorry to say this is not Verona or Pisa. At Juve you win or you’re done. Accept it or stay a loser


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Thank you. At least someone has some critical thinking skills here.

 

[Salvo]

Will he do well overseeing the sporting side of things? Who knows

He is an intelligent guy but we need someone next to him that isn't Comolli. Will Tognozzi be that guy?

We desperately need leadership from the very top to on the pitch.

 

[Bjerknes]

Please go back to LA and open a fucking restaurant or something. Get the fuck outta here.

 

[Alin]

Nothing but respect to Chiellini the legend but if from his current role that is supposedly getting more decisional power the best thing he can come up with to take us out of this mess is to double down on a pensioner coach even after he had failed at every objective he was set for this season then neither him nor Comolli have any idea what to do here and we’re in for even bigger surprises next season.

 

[Robee]

Will he do well overseeing the sporting side of things? Who knows

He is an intelligent guy but we need someone next to him that isn't Comolli. Will Tognozzi be that guy?

We desperately need leadership from the very top to on the pitch.

We'll have to wait and see what Ottolini will get after all this reshuffling too.

 

[Xperd]

I have no idea what he's doing and its his first season but he's part of the management that finished outside the top 4(plusvalenzagate nonsense aside) for the first time since 2010-11 and as reports suggest, he heavily backed Spunkletti who's turning about to be worse than Motta and Tudor. Not a great start.

 

[RKid1]

I hate everything about this club right now, but Chiellini is one of the few people I trust. I think he's a smart guy, both from a business standpoint and from understanding the game and the club.

The more experience and power he gains, the better it'll be.

And I dont just say that because I liked him as a player. Buffon is my favorite player and I think he's a clueless stooge that was a mascot for the Italian national team. Del Piero is a mascot on CBS with his stupid glasses and is no different. I want them nowhere near the club outside of being an club ambassador or something like that.

Chiellini is the only former great player I trust having in an important role with Juventus

 

[Bjerknes]

I hate everything about this club right now, but Chiellini is one of the few people I trust. I think he's a smart guy, both from a business standpoint and from understanding the game and the club.

The more experience and power he gains, the better it'll be.

And I dont just say that because I liked him as a player. Buffon is my favorite player and I think he's a clueless stooge that was a mascot for the Italian national team. Del Piero is a mascot on CBS with his stupid glasses and is no different. I want them nowhere near the club outside of being an club ambassador or something like that.

Chiellini is the only former great player I trust having in an important role with Juventus

That is called blind optimism at its finest. I’m sure the management loves fans like you.

 

[Lion]

I hate everything about this club right now, but Chiellini is one of the few people I trust. I think he's a smart guy, both from a business standpoint

not saying he isn't but what proof do you have of this.. what business deals has he conducted?

i dont consider degree proof of real world business expertise.

 

[RKid1]

not saying he isn't but what proof do you have of this.. what business deals has he conducted?

i dont consider degree proof of real world business expertise.

Just a gut feeling. I respected him as a player. I respect what he's done academically and the time and effort that goes into that when he didn't need to do it -- it tells me about his character and drive. I watched him in the media in the USA with how he interacts with people and what he says and how he says it. He comes off as a smart person.

I just think he's a smart guy that gets it. Does it mean he'll lead Juventus into another great era? No. I'm not sure any italian club can overcome the financial handcuffs, especially compared to the top clubs in Europe right now.

But I'll put my money on that guy -- especially compared to some of the other fucking idiots that have been in any kind of position of power this decade that I had zero faith in since day 1.

Most great former footballers come off as stupid that I'd have zero confidence in at a position of power. I dont get those vibes from Chiellini. I genuinely think he's a smart guy that will put in the required work at a position of power.

 

[Bjerknes]

Most of his football upbringing came from working under Allegri. So he would be one of the last people on earth I would choose for this job.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Go away Chiello

You are too much of a diplomat and an empty suit. You don’t represent millions of Juventini in the right way.

 

[Brny44]

Most of his football upbringing came from working under Allegri. So he would be one of the last people on earth I would choose for this job.

Just because you are a smart footballer doesnt mean you should be a part of management.

 

[juvesince96]

This has become the history of the juventus

 

[Robee]

Just because you are a smart footballer doesnt mean you should be a part of management.

It also doesn't mean you shouldn't. The guy has the background.

Will he start the next Triade? Probably not but he surely doesn't deserve to be shot down without a proper chance.

Bring in a shrewd guy like Tognozzi and the market will very likely be handled better with those two (and Ottolini). It's not like we have a lot of options...

 

[Cronios]

Chiellini, one more scapegoat to be blamed for the continuous failures Gatti, Cambiaso and Locatelli will bring...

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Chiellini, one more scapegoat to be blamed for the continuous failures Gatti, Cambiaso and Locatelli will bring...

Chiellini would no doubt support every single one of those you just mentioned.

 

[Bjerknes]

He hasn’t even had a big role yet and I already hate his guts. This guy will lead the future of the status quo for this club and extend our mediocrity for another decade. I wanted people who have zero experience at JJ to run this club and they chose someone who couldn’t be worse. Old school defender, disparaging comments about the squad under Allegri because they wouldn’t sit back for one nils every match or whatever, total Allegri throater, loser mentality in CL finals just like his favorite coach. AJC account says he’s the only hope and is excited for the future. His legacy as a player for me is basically done. That’s a shame, at least Alex was smart enough to stay away.