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This asshole went for broke basically. Even though we were facing all these sanctions and didn’t have a lot of money to spend, somehow we were still able to spend over 100 million despite having essentially zero sales. I actually think that Spunkletti convince the stupid management that all we needed was Kolo Muani and Lucumi and few other signings, and then we would challenge for the Scudetto. Basically, they put all their chips into spunk Letty and his project. So if we fail, then next summer, when the next manager comes in will be in total disarray because we’ll have even more assets that are worthless, and we won’t even have any money to spend because we’ll have financial Fairplay issues. These assholes are literally gambling with our future.
some of them are tough but both openda and david scored plenty pre jj and it wasn't like a decade ago, both had multiple decent seasons. pl clubs pay absolutely absurd amounts for random meh players who failed spectacularly. savinho (now savio) is inferior to both of them
adzic is very talented. miretti would start at most bottom table italian teams. digre's wages aren't even that high and before this truly horrendous season, he was actually decent, and even last season he had a 70% save rate, better than half of pl starter goalies. perin isn't worth too much but not even half a million is simply dogshit business.
i said it many times, we should take note of the clubs our players arrive from and leave to. these are mid table players indeed. but we couldn't even sell them to mid table clubs, not even those who weren't on high wages
before i forget, we lost 6m on arthur
yeah mario is shit
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and another remark i just wrote about to a buddy: we still have way too many players
our squad for the league still has at least 2 players as a surplus to requirements, so probably cabal and milik won't even be on the serie a list. the cl list is even worse as rugani doesn't count as a homegrown by uefa rules
imagine not being able to explain to cabal's agent that it's either roma/atalanta or the stands
adzic is very talented. miretti would start at most bottom table italian teams. digre's wages aren't even that high and before this truly horrendous season, he was actually decent, and even last season he had a 70% save rate, better than half of pl starter goalies. perin isn't worth too much but not even half a million is simply dogshit business.
i said it many times, we should take note of the clubs our players arrive from and leave to. these are mid table players indeed. but we couldn't even sell them to mid table clubs, not even those who weren't on high wages
before i forget, we lost 6m on arthur
yeah mario is shit
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and another remark i just wrote about to a buddy: we still have way too many players
our squad for the league still has at least 2 players as a surplus to requirements, so probably cabal and milik won't even be on the serie a list. the cl list is even worse as rugani doesn't count as a homegrown by uefa rules
imagine not being able to explain to cabal's agent that it's either roma/atalanta or the stands
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some of them are tough but both openda and david scored plenty pre jj and it wasn't like a decade ago, both had multiple decent seasons. pl clubs pay absolutely absurd amounts for random meh players who failed spectacularly. savinho (now savio) is inferior to both of them
adzic is very talented. miretti would start at most bottom table italian teams. digre's wages aren't even that high and before this truly horrendous season, he was actually decent, and even last season he had a 70% save rate, better than half of pl starter goalies. perin isn't worth too much but not even half a million is simply dogshit business.
i said it many times, we should take note of the clubs our players arrive from and leave to. these are mid table players indeed. but we couldn't even sell them to mid table clubs, not even those who weren't on high wages
before i forget, we lost 6m on arthur
yeah mario is shit
- - - Updated - - -
and another remark i just wrote about to a buddy: we still have way too many players
our squad for the league still has at least 2 players as a surplus to requirements, so probably cabal and milik won't even be on the serie a list. the cl list is even worse as rugani doesn't count as a homegrown by uefa rules
imagine not being able to explain to cabal's agent that it's either roma/atalanta or the stands
adzic is very talented. miretti would start at most bottom table italian teams. digre's wages aren't even that high and before this truly horrendous season, he was actually decent, and even last season he had a 70% save rate, better than half of pl starter goalies. perin isn't worth too much but not even half a million is simply dogshit business.
i said it many times, we should take note of the clubs our players arrive from and leave to. these are mid table players indeed. but we couldn't even sell them to mid table clubs, not even those who weren't on high wages
before i forget, we lost 6m on arthur
yeah mario is shit
- - - Updated - - -
and another remark i just wrote about to a buddy: we still have way too many players
our squad for the league still has at least 2 players as a surplus to requirements, so probably cabal and milik won't even be on the serie a list. the cl list is even worse as rugani doesn't count as a homegrown by uefa rules
imagine not being able to explain to cabal's agent that it's either roma/atalanta or the stands
The Arthur situation was also fucked up. The did the best worst thing they could have.
The negatives i see are:
Overpaid for KM
Didnt get a proper LB, but this is mainly due to Cabal refusing everything
They signed Jeff for some fucked up reason
Rugani, Milik, Cabal, Zhegrova and Koop are still here. Me personaly would sell/loan Zhegrova and kept Licina but anyway.
Lost too many time on Dibu. Should have closed him sooner.
We treat players like slaves and the word is getting out.
https://x.com/alfredopedulla/status/2095097407897784661?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
Fire this fucking pedo.
https://x.com/alfredopedulla/status/2095097407897784661?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
Fire this fucking pedo.
Kessies Agent
“The negotiation with Juventus didn’t begin in the first days of the transfer window. It began much earlier, when Franck, at the end of his contract, decided that he wanted to join Juventus,”
“Franck concretely proved, with facts and enormous financial sacrifices, how much he wanted to wear the Juventus shirt.
“He turned down several offers from other clubs, some of which were figures that would objectively have been impossible for almost any footballer to refuse. He maintained his desire to join Juventus despite receiving offers far more financially lucrative than what he would have accepted from the Bianconeri. This is a fundamental point in understanding the whole affair,” Atangana continued.
“Following Franck’s wishes, I worked toward a mutually satisfactory agreement. We understood the club’s needs, agreed to wait, and gave Juventus the time needed to complete outgoing transfers and create the financial and sporting conditions to make an offer.
“Juventus’ concrete offer only materialised in the very final days of the transfer window. And despite being significantly lower than the terms initially envisaged, I had the player’s approval to revise his demands and lower them precisely to accommodate Juventus’ needs and difficulties: at that point, his priority was not to maximise his earnings, but to join Juventus.
“On this basis, both sides tried to find an acceptable compromise and, as can happen, despite Franck showing great flexibility in order to find a solution compatible with Juventus’ financial requirements, no balance could be reached. Believing that he had done everything possible to meet the club halfway, while being fully aware of his career, his value and, at the same time, the sacrifices he had made to maintain Juventus as his priority, Franck, at the end of August, drew some legitimate and reasonable conclusions about the club’s actual determination to sign him. It had become a question of consideration, of confidence in his abilities and, above all, of dignity.
“There is an African proverb that I believe perfectly captures the meaning of this whole affair: ‘Desiring and deeply appreciating something does not mean being willing to accept it at any cost. Everything has its limits.’ Franck genuinely wanted Juventus and demonstrated this through his actions, patience, and significant financial sacrifices. But wanting to wear a particular shirt cannot mean giving up one’s dignity or the level of consideration that a professional with his career believes he deserves.”
“Franck Kessié waited for Juventus for weeks, even when one would have expected the dialogue to remain active within the financial sustainability parameters that had been established to finalise an agreement. Instead, it was only in the very final days of the transfer window that the club became willing to sit down and negotiate concretely.
“I want to be absolutely clear. Franck Kessié is a man and a footballer of the highest calibre. He has played and won at the highest international levels, possesses a personality, experience, and full awareness of his own decisions. He is not someone who can be influenced, and nobody makes decisions on his behalf. The role of an agent, and even more so that of an intermediary, is not to persuade a player to accept a club’s proposal simply in order to complete a deal. The role is to advise, negotiate and help find the right balance between the financial expectations and sporting considerations of both parties. As far as I am concerned, my clients’ interests come before my own. Always.
“The decision to end the negotiations came when, faced with the rigidity and difficulties encountered, Franck felt that the conditions for reaching a positive conclusion no longer existed. This stemmed from the feeling that the club’s management had either lost or perhaps never fully possessed the required conviction and determination.
“I do, however, want to sincerely thank Juventus’ coach [Luciano Spalletti], who showed great appreciation for Franck and motivated him tremendously. It was one of the reasons, if not the main one, why Franck remained available until the very end.”
If you've read all the way till end, high five! Surely theree an afrucan proverb about stop repeating the same shit and this could have been put in one paragraph.
“The negotiation with Juventus didn’t begin in the first days of the transfer window. It began much earlier, when Franck, at the end of his contract, decided that he wanted to join Juventus,”
“Franck concretely proved, with facts and enormous financial sacrifices, how much he wanted to wear the Juventus shirt.
“He turned down several offers from other clubs, some of which were figures that would objectively have been impossible for almost any footballer to refuse. He maintained his desire to join Juventus despite receiving offers far more financially lucrative than what he would have accepted from the Bianconeri. This is a fundamental point in understanding the whole affair,” Atangana continued.
“Following Franck’s wishes, I worked toward a mutually satisfactory agreement. We understood the club’s needs, agreed to wait, and gave Juventus the time needed to complete outgoing transfers and create the financial and sporting conditions to make an offer.
“Juventus’ concrete offer only materialised in the very final days of the transfer window. And despite being significantly lower than the terms initially envisaged, I had the player’s approval to revise his demands and lower them precisely to accommodate Juventus’ needs and difficulties: at that point, his priority was not to maximise his earnings, but to join Juventus.
“On this basis, both sides tried to find an acceptable compromise and, as can happen, despite Franck showing great flexibility in order to find a solution compatible with Juventus’ financial requirements, no balance could be reached. Believing that he had done everything possible to meet the club halfway, while being fully aware of his career, his value and, at the same time, the sacrifices he had made to maintain Juventus as his priority, Franck, at the end of August, drew some legitimate and reasonable conclusions about the club’s actual determination to sign him. It had become a question of consideration, of confidence in his abilities and, above all, of dignity.
“There is an African proverb that I believe perfectly captures the meaning of this whole affair: ‘Desiring and deeply appreciating something does not mean being willing to accept it at any cost. Everything has its limits.’ Franck genuinely wanted Juventus and demonstrated this through his actions, patience, and significant financial sacrifices. But wanting to wear a particular shirt cannot mean giving up one’s dignity or the level of consideration that a professional with his career believes he deserves.”
“Franck Kessié waited for Juventus for weeks, even when one would have expected the dialogue to remain active within the financial sustainability parameters that had been established to finalise an agreement. Instead, it was only in the very final days of the transfer window that the club became willing to sit down and negotiate concretely.
“I want to be absolutely clear. Franck Kessié is a man and a footballer of the highest calibre. He has played and won at the highest international levels, possesses a personality, experience, and full awareness of his own decisions. He is not someone who can be influenced, and nobody makes decisions on his behalf. The role of an agent, and even more so that of an intermediary, is not to persuade a player to accept a club’s proposal simply in order to complete a deal. The role is to advise, negotiate and help find the right balance between the financial expectations and sporting considerations of both parties. As far as I am concerned, my clients’ interests come before my own. Always.
“The decision to end the negotiations came when, faced with the rigidity and difficulties encountered, Franck felt that the conditions for reaching a positive conclusion no longer existed. This stemmed from the feeling that the club’s management had either lost or perhaps never fully possessed the required conviction and determination.
“I do, however, want to sincerely thank Juventus’ coach [Luciano Spalletti], who showed great appreciation for Franck and motivated him tremendously. It was one of the reasons, if not the main one, why Franck remained available until the very end.”
If you've read all the way till end, high five! Surely theree an afrucan proverb about stop repeating the same shit and this could have been put in one paragraph.
he can say whatever he wants. Kessie went to the arabs only because of money, and waited for Juve for the last big contract, where our mgmt seemed to not fulfill his expectations and make him a huge weight in our accounts, while beeing unsellable in the future.
Sarr will be 24 soon and has 100 games in the PL, much easier to sell, and if exploding a player for the next 5-6 years.
Sarr will be 24 soon and has 100 games in the PL, much easier to sell, and if exploding a player for the next 5-6 years.
Compare our squad below.
To these following squads.
Bayern and Barca, both focused with a handful of key players. JJ is basically a random mix of players. Reminds me of Inter circa 2012 when they had like 16 different nationalities on the team and randos like Walter Gargano and Gaby Mudingayi patrolling the midfield. Oh yeah and guess what, Inter finished 9th that season.
To these following squads.
Bayern and Barca, both focused with a handful of key players. JJ is basically a random mix of players. Reminds me of Inter circa 2012 when they had like 16 different nationalities on the team and randos like Walter Gargano and Gaby Mudingayi patrolling the midfield. Oh yeah and guess what, Inter finished 9th that season.