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Kalulu in the back 3 for one of Kelly or Gatti. We can't keep giving the sort of chances they both give away. I accept that if we play with 3 one of them will start with Bremer out.
Yildiz was quiet but he has enough quality to do something out of nothing. Chico looked fine fitness wise. I think that was the most baffling one, he was getting more and more into the game and is exactly the sort of player you want against someone on a yellow.
Agreed on McKennie, it was him, Koop, Adzic or maybe Cambiaso in the middle. But he definitely should be playing 90 when Thuram came on.
Yildiz was quiet but he has enough quality to do something out of nothing. Chico looked fine fitness wise. I think that was the most baffling one, he was getting more and more into the game and is exactly the sort of player you want against someone on a yellow.
Agreed on McKennie, it was him, Koop, Adzic or maybe Cambiaso in the middle. But he definitely should be playing 90 when Thuram came on.
who plays WB? Mario, kostic? They start we lose, everyone will be moaning about them starting.
Yildiz was out of the game all of the 2nd half, chico didnt even start last game and you want him to play 90 minutes? Do you remember how long he stayed down in the first half? We keep him on he aggravates his injury and then again everyone will be moaning why he stayed on.
Monday morning quarterbacking is fun, but tbh I have yet to hear a compelling argument. I will 100% take a draw mising 2 of 3 best players and with a backline of gatti rugani kelly.
Yildiz was out of the game all of the 2nd half, chico didnt even start last game and you want him to play 90 minutes? Do you remember how long he stayed down in the first half? We keep him on he aggravates his injury and then again everyone will be moaning why he stayed on.
Monday morning quarterbacking is fun, but tbh I have yet to hear a compelling argument. I will 100% take a draw mising 2 of 3 best players and with a backline of gatti rugani kelly.
I actually wrote here before that “Igor Tudor is one hell of a lucky bastard,” and I still stand by it.
Think about it; the guy had a mid-table managerial career in the Turkish Super League, a League which is basically football’s version of a rigged casino; full of shady money, match-fixing, and zero actual quality. He manages Karabükspor, a small city, mid-level team with a half-decent squad, and still somehow only gets 27 points in 21 games because of his galaxy-brain tactics. Everyone hated him in city Karabük because of his antics...
And then what happens? Out of nowhere, boom, he becomes coach of Galatasaray, the richest, most succesfull club in the country, right in the middle of their big-spending rebuild. No reason, no logic but just pure, uncut luck.
Fast forward a few years without any fucking success at anywhere in the sport we called football and boom! He’s suddenly sitting on the Juventus bench. Again, why? Out of all the coaches on the planet, this man ends up in charge of Juventus. If that’s not divine intervention, I don’t know what is.
The problem? Tudor’s got nothing except luck. No ideal XI, no consistent tactics, no defensive shape, no midfield structure nothing! There was a time when watching Rabiot start in Juventus’s midfield felt to me like witnessing the fall of the Western Roman Empire in real time. I was hating Rabiot that much. But thanks to Igor Tudor, today a midfield of 40-year-old Modrić and Rabiot actually looked to me like prime Vidal-Pirlo running the show in 2013.
The fact that we’ve lost only three games this season is a statistical miracle, like flipping a coin 100 times and getting heads 100 of them.
Today’s draw against AC Milan? Straight-up holy miracle, guys. Missing penalties, missing 2 meters wide open goals... We’re literally 12th or 13th in the league for xG (expected goals), yet somehow we’re among the most goal converting teams despite having so low xG. Explain that? You can’t.
Now don’t get me wrong, i really think we’ve got a good squad. But the biggest obstacle standing between us and success is Igor Tudor himself. Let me put it this way:
Back in Turkey (yeah, I give lots of Turkey examples i know, but Juventus is basically being run by Turkish football rejects anyway), Beşiktaş recently hired Sergen Yalçın, a coach known for his attacking style. Under Solskjaer-level constipation football, they looked hopeless, getting eliminated to a team called Lousanne. Right after Sergen Yalçın's appointment, in two days of time, Beşiktaş went on to the pitch as a different team, everyone saw that. Beşiktaş had an attacking plan, despite having very bad talent pool.
Now that same Beşiktaş, with a trash-tier squad, went toe to toe with Galatasaray; a team packed with names like Osimhen, Icardi, and Torreira and made them look lost. All that happened in just a few weeks. Meanwhile, we’re still out here watching Tudors rolls with the tactical dice before every match.
Think about it; the guy had a mid-table managerial career in the Turkish Super League, a League which is basically football’s version of a rigged casino; full of shady money, match-fixing, and zero actual quality. He manages Karabükspor, a small city, mid-level team with a half-decent squad, and still somehow only gets 27 points in 21 games because of his galaxy-brain tactics. Everyone hated him in city Karabük because of his antics...
And then what happens? Out of nowhere, boom, he becomes coach of Galatasaray, the richest, most succesfull club in the country, right in the middle of their big-spending rebuild. No reason, no logic but just pure, uncut luck.
Fast forward a few years without any fucking success at anywhere in the sport we called football and boom! He’s suddenly sitting on the Juventus bench. Again, why? Out of all the coaches on the planet, this man ends up in charge of Juventus. If that’s not divine intervention, I don’t know what is.
The problem? Tudor’s got nothing except luck. No ideal XI, no consistent tactics, no defensive shape, no midfield structure nothing! There was a time when watching Rabiot start in Juventus’s midfield felt to me like witnessing the fall of the Western Roman Empire in real time. I was hating Rabiot that much. But thanks to Igor Tudor, today a midfield of 40-year-old Modrić and Rabiot actually looked to me like prime Vidal-Pirlo running the show in 2013.
The fact that we’ve lost only three games this season is a statistical miracle, like flipping a coin 100 times and getting heads 100 of them.
Today’s draw against AC Milan? Straight-up holy miracle, guys. Missing penalties, missing 2 meters wide open goals... We’re literally 12th or 13th in the league for xG (expected goals), yet somehow we’re among the most goal converting teams despite having so low xG. Explain that? You can’t.
Now don’t get me wrong, i really think we’ve got a good squad. But the biggest obstacle standing between us and success is Igor Tudor himself. Let me put it this way:
Back in Turkey (yeah, I give lots of Turkey examples i know, but Juventus is basically being run by Turkish football rejects anyway), Beşiktaş recently hired Sergen Yalçın, a coach known for his attacking style. Under Solskjaer-level constipation football, they looked hopeless, getting eliminated to a team called Lousanne. Right after Sergen Yalçın's appointment, in two days of time, Beşiktaş went on to the pitch as a different team, everyone saw that. Beşiktaş had an attacking plan, despite having very bad talent pool.
Now that same Beşiktaş, with a trash-tier squad, went toe to toe with Galatasaray; a team packed with names like Osimhen, Icardi, and Torreira and made them look lost. All that happened in just a few weeks. Meanwhile, we’re still out here watching Tudors rolls with the tactical dice before every match.
I'd happily play Kostic, Joao Mario, McKennie or anyone else capable of playing wing back to get Kalulu out of RWB and into the back 3 ahead of one of Kelly or Gatti. The amount of chances we have conceded from both of them is ridiculous
I'd far rather a weaker player out wide than in the heart of defence or midfield. it limits the damage they can do.
Yildiz was out the game but he is capable of doing something at any point, even when quiet. He's easily our best player and the looked even poorer and more disjointed after the subs.
I'd far rather a weaker player out wide than in the heart of defence or midfield. it limits the damage they can do.
Yildiz was out the game but he is capable of doing something at any point, even when quiet. He's easily our best player and the looked even poorer and more disjointed after the subs.
we have 3 of the top10 most prolific u25 players, plus yildiz and chico, yet we as a team can't create anything. yildiz and chico have some flashes, otherwise it's the same predictable nothing as last season with motta
with 10 seconds left, locatelli decides to do a safety short pass instead of going for the long ball towards vlahovic and openda. a coach who wanted to win would have tore loca's head off after the final whistle
do something buddy, your verona or marseille was a more exciting team to watch
with 10 seconds left, locatelli decides to do a safety short pass instead of going for the long ball towards vlahovic and openda. a coach who wanted to win would have tore loca's head off after the final whistle
do something buddy, your verona or marseille was a more exciting team to watch
Del Piero: “Who is more suited to play up front for Juventus? There isn't a suitable player at the moment. Whoever has played as a starter has almost always performed poorly. If we analyze the five draws, three of them came in a rollercoaster fashion, just like the victory against Inter. If you rotate so much, you keep everyone on their toes, you give confidence to everyone. But on the other hand, you lose identity. The team recognizes itself in a starting 11, which today doesn't exist, especially up front. Tudor still doesn't have clear ideas yet what to do in attack.”
