Juventus Next Gen (16 Viewers)

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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2005? He's 21.

If he was going to be good enough for Juventus I'd expect him not to be in Serie C at 21.

Maybe I still don't get the Next Gen idea
Muharemovic and Savona were in next gen at 21. They’re now in the premier league
Pedro Felipe was 21. He’s now in la liga
Barrenechea was 21. He’s now a starter for Benfica

No one is saying Owusu is some wunderkind. But he’s good enough to be a squad player for Juve.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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Muharemovic and Savona were in next gen at 21. They’re now in the premier league
Pedro Felipe was 21. He’s now in la liga
Barrenechea was 21. He’s now a starter for Benfica

No one is saying Owusu is some wonderkind. But he’s good enough to be a squad player for Juve.
Honestly I think the few wonderkids who stuck out have warped my sense of what normal is.

Loved Barrenechea, with we'd kept him.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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Our approach has stopped from Promoting to Monitising early, taking early win, grabbing scraps, rather than promoting and benefitting the first team, with each management comes the confidence levels.

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Honestly I think the few wonderkids who stuck out have warped my sense of what normal is.
I think youre referring to some of the ones that were released while younger aka Huijsen, Mbangula?
 

Espectro

The Grimreaper
Jul 12, 2002
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Our approach has stopped from Promoting to Monitising early, taking early win, grabbing scraps, rather than promoting and benefitting the first team, with each management comes the confidence levels.

hate to break it to you but... that monitising early has been our approach since forever, maybe we change it for 1 or 2 seasons, but we have never been a team that promotes young players... not saying is a good thing, but its what we usually do
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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hate to break it to you but... that monitising early has been our approach since forever, maybe we change it for 1 or 2 seasons, but we have never been a team that promotes young players... not saying is a good thing, but its what we usually do
this is out of necessity. The next gen players are the only ones they can actually sell because theyre the only ones teams value. Look at how many first teamers they were able to sell this summer. One?
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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hate to break it to you but... that monitising early has been our approach since forever, maybe we change it for 1 or 2 seasons, but we have never been a team that promotes young players... not saying is a good thing, but its what we usually do
To be fair it was only summer 25 that we sold Savona and Mbangula, both who featuered in first teams.

We didnt promote anyone last season, thats acceptable, it was going well, and now weve returned to our old ways again.
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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I think if FFP wasn't an issue for us and we were more profitable we'd have seen more next gen players stay for longer like Huijsen and Soule.

The short term focus of plusvalenza is an issue and it is hard to see it changing for while. The ideal situation is to have good young players to provide depth and uncover one or two starters.

We've brought through a decent amount of players capable of playing in top 5 leagues in the past few years (Yildiz, Soule, Barrenechea, Huijsen, Muharemovic, Fagioli, Miretti, Savona, Mbangula, Daffara, Pedro Felipe). It's debatable how many of that list we'd like to keep but you can see the difference in comparison to when we only had the primavera and very few made the team or us money.
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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I think if FFP wasn't an issue for us and we were more profitable we'd have seen more next gen players stay for longer like Huijsen and Soule.

The short term focus of plusvalenza is an issue and it is hard to see it changing for while. The ideal situation is to have good young players to provide depth and uncover one or two starters.

We've brought through a decent amount of players capable of playing in top 5 leagues in the past few years (Yildiz, Soule, Barrenechea, Huijsen, Muharemovic, Fagioli, Miretti, Savona, Mbangula, Daffara, Pedro Felipe). It's debatable how many of that list we'd like to keep but you can see the difference in comparison to when we only had the primavera and very few made the team or us money.
Its a funny old thing because it was were screwed in 2023 that reinforced us to promote youngsters.

The uefa ffp agreement that has been imposed on includes limits on the total cost of players registered in their competition A list. if we focus on promoting 1-2 talented players who have a significant low cost, this actually helps instead of hindering the problem.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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Our approach has stopped from Promoting to Monitising early, taking early win, grabbing scraps, rather than promoting and benefitting the first team, with each management comes the confidence levels.

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I think youre referring to some of the ones that were released while younger aka Huijsen, Mbangula?
Nah I mean like Paul Pogba and proper wonderkids. I guess I presume that if we want to be a top club we should be disappointed if any of our players aren't clearly top talents. Real life's not like that.

I think I probably don't really understand at what age you could realistically expect players to play at what sort of level - and even then it's not uniform is it. I also have zero idea how trainers handle the development of professional athletes.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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I honestly thought Owusu was ready for serie A/Juve at 19. He was always physically advanced. I still remember the game he had vs the first team in preseason back in ‘24. It’s long overdue, but I’m guessing it’ll take another injury before we’re seriously talking about him playing. But for all intents and purposes he’s the sixth midfielder. I just wish they’d play young guys because they’re good enough rather than necessity. I don’t know what all these old farts think is going to happen if they play an inexperienced guy. Owusu wont shit his pants. And he‘ll be hungry to prove himself. Might actually get something beyond a light jog wink wink

anyways here’s another name for this season.
 
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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I honestly thought Owusu was ready for serie A/Juve at 19. He was always physically advanced. I still remember the game he had vs the first team in preseason back in ‘24. It’s long overdue, but I’m guessing it’ll take another injury before we’re seriously talking about him playing. But for all intents and purposes he’s the sixth midfielder. I just wish they’d play young guys because they’re good enough rather than necessity. I don’t know what all these old farts think is going to happen if they play an inexperienced guy. Owusu wont shit his pants. And he‘ll be hungry to prove himself. Might actually get something beyond a light jog wink wink

anyways here’s another name for this season.
He looks sturdy, fast, and two footed. Already better than that Cabal guy.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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Agresti
Augusto Owusu is a midfielder who undoubtedly performed well during pre-season, and it is no coincidence that he has been included in Juventus' UEFA Europa League squad.

He will certainly train with the first team on a regular basis. However, it is difficult to understand why, during pre-season, minutes were given to players who would later leave, such as Arthur, while the youngsters who travelled with the team were overlooked.

At 21, he is no longer a kid and already has experience in senior football.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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Agresti
Augusto Owusu is a midfielder who undoubtedly performed well during pre-season, and it is no coincidence that he has been included in Juventus' UEFA Europa League squad.

He will certainly train with the first team on a regular basis. However, it is difficult to understand why, during pre-season, minutes were given to players who would later leave, such as Arthur, while the youngsters who travelled with the team were overlooked.

At 21, he is no longer a kid and already has experience in senior football.
I presume its because Spalletti wanted to give Arthur a chance before making a decision as its the first time he gets to see him action. Senior > Junior
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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Ok here are some midfielders that could get called up this season. Probably one more injury away from this being a reality.

Grady Makiobo- defensive midfielder, with good passing range and athleticism. Injuries are the biggest question mark as he has missed time. A fit Makiobo would be first on my list.

Patryk Mazur- another defensive midfielder, with less passing range and athleticism than Makiobo but more physicality. I think he plays like Barrenechea.

Diego Ripani- different profile than Mazur and Makiobo. More of a passer, deep lying playmaker. Not sure he can handle the physicality of serie A though, hes pretty small.

Enzo Keutgen- Im a fan of him. Good size, good technique, more of a box to box type. He seems to be shuttling between primavera and next gen so probably not on the shortlist.

Idris Sylla- Another defensive mid in primavera that I like. Has been a starter this season. Like his size, hes built like Sarr with long limbs.
 

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