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kronos

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Aug 16, 2011
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Dybala at 21 carried a poor Palermo team on his back and had way better stats than Yildiz does at the same age

Even at 21, rate Dybala higher than current Yildiz. Not to shit on him but Yildiz is probably a victim of JJ marketing hype and mismanagement by mediocre Italian managers.

I just don't think he's an elite talent but he can still develop into a quality player. It starts with him playing more centrally.
Are you really comparing the parked buses and pressure of playing for Juve with playing for Palermo?

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Are you really comparing the parked buses and pressure of playing for Juve with playing for Palermo?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he has more potential than Dybala, all I'm saying is the comparison makes no sense
 

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mondo1

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May 14, 2006
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Bro for 6 months or more I hear that he’s injured - rest him or stop complaining and perform. He played poorly atleast since January and especially after his extension (not quite sure when it was to be honest)

Same for turkey now, if he’s really injured, he should rest and get back into shape, cause he looked like prime Krasic the last few games.


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Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Bro for 6 months or more I hear that he’s injured - rest him or stop complaining and perform. He played poorly atleast since January and especially after his extension (not quite sure when it was to be honest)

Same for turkey now, if he’s really injured, he should rest and get back into shape, cause he looked like prime Krasic the last few games.


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A patellar tendinitis doesn't get solved with rest. It needs careful load management, tendon rehab etc. It can take any time between weeks and years to fully recover but you can play with it even if pain remains a factor obv...

So in short; it's way more complicated than what you're saying and hopefully it gets a lot better in the coming weeks.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Are you really comparing the parked buses and pressure of playing for Juve with playing for Palermo?

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he has more potential than Dybala, all I'm saying is the comparison makes no sense
This is what happens when you misquote people

I was responding to the guy that was saying Dybala did well because he played with great players at JJ. Palermo clearly disagrees.

As for parked buses, Dybala in his 1st year at JJ was playing against those parked buses under an anti football coach and guess what, he was one of the best players that season.

On every metric, young Dybala was simply better.
 

Adrian

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Jan 31, 2003
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So young indeed and in time will get better. Has two guys on him at all times with the lacking players around him.
That is the other thing to it all....besides conceicao, who was missing a lot on the field, we literally had no other source of creativity and were so predictable trying to feed every single attack through Yildiz on that left side.

Even though his best highlights stem from that left side, in my opinion, it limits him and the teams ability to attack.
 

mondo1

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May 14, 2006
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A patellar tendinitis doesn't get solved with rest. It needs careful load management, tendon rehab etc. It can take any time between weeks and years to fully recover but you can play with it even if pain remains a factor obv...

So in short; it's way more complicated than what you're saying and hopefully it gets a lot better in the coming weeks.
Im no doctor but that’s not I was told to do when you have this kind of injury.

I learnt you need to stop playing and do special exercises - mostly powerlifting etc and only return to football when you don’t feel pain


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kronos

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Aug 16, 2011
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This is what happens when you misquote people

I was responding to the guy that was saying Dybala did well because he played with great players at JJ. Palermo clearly disagrees.

As for parked buses, Dybala in his 1st year at JJ was playing against those parked buses under an anti football coach and guess what, he was one of the best players that season.

On every metric, young Dybala was simply better.
Damn, I just realised Dybala joined us when he was only 21 :eek:
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Im no doctor but that’s not I was told to do when you have this kind of injury.

I learnt you need to stop playing and do special exercises - mostly powerlifting etc and only return to football when you don’t feel pain
Whether you have to stop or not depends on the seriousness of the injury.
A 21-yo old with a very severe tendinosis that he has to stop everything (for long) is very very uncommon.

Back in the days, they did recommens that 'though. And they saw many many relapses when returning and it didn't heal faster too. They usually only make a player stop nowadays when the pain is hard to endure or the tendon is so sick it has chances of rupturing.

That injury won't tell everything about his performances but people easily forget he's a 21-year old. That is a simple side effect of dropping youngsters in the team... Not everyone is ready as fast as the next guy...
 

MrMonkey

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Jul 15, 2017
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That is the other thing to it all....besides conceicao, who was missing a lot on the field, we literally had no other source of creativity and were so predictable trying to feed every single attack through Yildiz on that left side.

Even though his best highlights stem from that left side, in my opinion, it limits him and the teams ability to attack.
LOL yes also some posters critical of Chico even more so and agree him and Yildiz are only two who create on their own. Not a good situation to be in with too much money invested in below quality players. New guy needs to find some cheap, surprising talent.
 
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LOL yes also some posters critical of Chico even more so and agree him and Yildiz are only two who create on their own. Not a good situation to be in with too much money invested in below quality players. New guy needs to find some cheap, surprising talent.
Chico is our main starter since 2 seasons now (in his position) and we got lucky to get 4th place 2024/5 and a 6th place 25/6.
Yet ppl protecting this player who failed miserably is the evidence that we fully deserve this downfall. And then you read he is our only threat beside Yildiz…. Welcome to AC Siena guys…
Juve has to start beeing professional club again if they want to compete for something. 2 years of Chico is enough to see he is shit for a top club - sell, kick him out, and do the same to all other players who are responsible for the last years without any sympathy (Beside 2-3 players it means all the club)
But Juve extends Spalletti despite not being 100% sure if we reach our target - lastly we failed in this having the fate in our hands!!!
We extend and give bigger contracts to players who failed too.

Bad lead company

Keep Yildiz, Bremer and Kalulu and
Sell all the rest
 
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Chico is our main starter since 2 seasons now (in his position) and we got lucky to get 4th place 2024/5 and a 6th place 25/6.
Yet ppl protecting this player who failed miserably is the evidence that we fully deserve this downfall. And then you read he is our only threat beside Yildiz…. Welcome to AC Siena guys…
Juve has to start beeing professional club again if they want to compete for something. 2 years of Chico is enough to see he is shit for a top club - sell, kick him out, and do the same to all other players who are responsible for the last years without any sympathy (Beside 2-3 players it means all the club)
But Juve extends Spalletti despite not being 100% sure if we reach our target - lastly we failed in this having the fate in our hands!!!
We extend and give bigger contracts to players who failed too.

Bad lead company

Keep Yildiz, Bremer and Kalulu and
Sell all the rest
He is a starter only because Zhegrova is shit. If he played decently and wasnt injured for 2649479 days maybe he would have been in front of chico in the first 11.
 
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He is a starter only because Zhegrova is shit. If he played decently and wasnt injured for 2649479 days maybe he would have been in front of chico in the first 11.
Zhegrova —> Sell. Finito

But tell me why he still played after a 24/25 season where there was no Zhegrova… so why you defend Chico including another player?

So lets keep Chico for the 3rd season because yeah we all hate Zhegrova and Chico has to play.
No wtf, sell both and finito
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Still haven’t ever seen him play a good match for Turkey. He actually looks like a retard in white and red, a handicapped left winger. Perhaps it’s because he has an Italian as coach.

Guler is world class tho.
 

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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Still haven’t ever seen him play a good match for Turkey. He actually looks like a retard in white and red, a handicapped left winger. Perhaps it’s because he has an Italian as coach.

Guler is world class tho.
he also looks like he gained weight. too many late night donair sandwiches
 
Mar 12, 2019
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Zhegrova —> Sell. Finito

But tell me why he still played after a 24/25 season where there was no Zhegrova… so why you defend Chico including another player?

So lets keep Chico for the 3rd season because yeah we all hate Zhegrova and Chico has to play.
No wtf, sell both and finito
I am for selling both to be frank.. but i have to compare chico with zhegrova because both play the same position. There is not a third wing on the right. And last season was obviously chico>zhegrova. The season prior we hade nico gonzalez there but he also struggled with injuries so chico had to play again. Seems he is far better than both at that position. And yet you keep mentioning him like he is our main problem.
 
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I am for selling both to be frank.. but i have to compare chico with zhegrova because both play the same position. There is not a third wing on the right. And last season was obviously chico>zhegrova. The season prior we hade nico gonzalez there but he also struggled with injuries so chico had to play again. Seems he is far better than both at that position. And yet you keep mentioning him like he is our main problem.
agree with you.

Still Chico is one player with the most minutes and i just make those mostly responsible for missing CL. I can’t criticize Adzic for missing CL because he barely played. Actually to be honest also Zhegrova cant be made responsible with his minutage, in the 2nd part of the season even an Openda, Kostic etc.
Its the easiest way to make Openda the worst playet ever and criticize him to Zero or anyone else with so low minutage for our declining cycle, but fact is that the guys who played most has to be pointed the finger first. Last 2 years players with most minutes (no order here)
DiGre
Chico
McKennie
Thuram
Kelly
Loca
Cambiaso
Koop
Vlahovic
(Kalulu, bremer and yildiz)

We finished 6 and 4. These one has to change first…

Atleast we both agree that we have a shit right flank in the club and need a reshuffle there.
 

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