Loïs Openda (17 Viewers)
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Here's the thing.
If management thought he was an underperforming CF who is young and has great potential and we might get a deal on him, you...... get a deal. Don't insanely overpay and have an obligation based on the dumbest of dumbness: avoid relegation. Gives yourself basically zero shot to avoid buying and makes this basically a purchase from day one barring an insane fall from grace for the club.
I love and follow the Red Bull development organization and system and I liked Openda a lot early and though he struggled last year (still had over 20 goal contributions, see below) I even thought perhaps us getting him could really emerge as a great purchase for us.
These are his last three seasons:
21 goals, 4 assists for Lens (who are their own development system to keep an eye on), 28 goals, 7 assists his first year at Red Bull, and then 13 goals, 11 assists last year with Red Bull.
But if you're going to go all in on him as a future CF option, you've gotta give him time and you've gotta play a system around him that works. He's been awful and done himself no favors. But the buy option was basically designed like we thought he'd be a sure thing star for us. I don't see how that was the thought. And I was excited we got him. He had a down year last year and was still got for over 20 goal contributions. But this buy option should've been tied to CL and performance. 10 goals or something like that.
Now, we're going to take a loss on him and hope he blows up somewhere else so they buy him. And you know we're loaning him out with a buy option, not a triggerable buy obligation.
If management thought he was an underperforming CF who is young and has great potential and we might get a deal on him, you...... get a deal. Don't insanely overpay and have an obligation based on the dumbest of dumbness: avoid relegation. Gives yourself basically zero shot to avoid buying and makes this basically a purchase from day one barring an insane fall from grace for the club.
I love and follow the Red Bull development organization and system and I liked Openda a lot early and though he struggled last year (still had over 20 goal contributions, see below) I even thought perhaps us getting him could really emerge as a great purchase for us.
These are his last three seasons:
21 goals, 4 assists for Lens (who are their own development system to keep an eye on), 28 goals, 7 assists his first year at Red Bull, and then 13 goals, 11 assists last year with Red Bull.
But if you're going to go all in on him as a future CF option, you've gotta give him time and you've gotta play a system around him that works. He's been awful and done himself no favors. But the buy option was basically designed like we thought he'd be a sure thing star for us. I don't see how that was the thought. And I was excited we got him. He had a down year last year and was still got for over 20 goal contributions. But this buy option should've been tied to CL and performance. 10 goals or something like that.
Now, we're going to take a loss on him and hope he blows up somewhere else so they buy him. And you know we're loaning him out with a buy option, not a triggerable buy obligation.
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This is what I posted on September 1st.
I'm not a scout. I have a job. I don't understand how we have professional scouts telling us to buy him, when this is glaringly obvious. Unless we have a manager, who wanted to use him for his workrate and speed alongside other better players, but I'd say he wasn't even really used that way and was expected to make things happen.
I just don't get it.
I'm not a scout. I have a job. I don't understand how we have professional scouts telling us to buy him, when this is glaringly obvious. Unless we have a manager, who wanted to use him for his workrate and speed alongside other better players, but I'd say he wasn't even really used that way and was expected to make things happen.
I just don't get it.
I reckon his stock will be low after a mediocre year at Leipzig en being benched this year. I dont think EPL clubs will be in for him so a loan to a mid tier Bundesliga or French side is most likely but I dont see Freiburg or Nice paying 30M for him. In the summer we have to get rid of Nico, Douglas, Koop and Him. That's 200m of expensive flops and I'd be surprised if we re-coup 100m
Sounds about right, which is why our best chance of recouping at least half of what we paid is to again accept a loan plus option formula in the hope that he regains form somewhere else…
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Then when considering that we are only officially buying him this summer it means we have no other choice but to loan him out for now because of the loss we’d record on our books if we were to sell him outright this mercatto for half of what we paid ourselves.
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Then when considering that we are only officially buying him this summer it means we have no other choice but to loan him out for now because of the loss we’d record on our books if we were to sell him outright this mercatto for half of what we paid ourselves.
