Luciano Spalletti - Manager (54 Viewers)

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Yesterday's game showed that when the pressure is really on, we falter. You could've put a Serie D team yesterday and we would've found a way to fumble.

I'm really worried about the next 3 games. I cant trust one person in this club who can thrive under pressure when the chips are down. Including Spunkletti himself.
I don't think it's the pressure, as a matter of fact it's the opposite. It's lack of urgency and complacency. With como draw, these guys were already making summer plans.
 

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Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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Just as i was slowly making my peace with the fact we’ve extended his contract before we’ve even managed to achieve our most minimum of objectives for this season and then a game like this happens, we at least seemed to be back on track lately only to now witness how we are about to throw it all away in embarrassing fashion.

If we do miss out on Top 4 at this stage it’s as much on him as anyone else, literally all of our competitors have been dropping points game after game yet we seem incapable to take proper advantage of it.
 

Tak!

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Jun 23, 2011
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They need a wake up, we move the ball so slow. Make some changes in the start 11 just to shake it up a bit. Not too dramatic, only 1-2.
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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I am not willing to write Spaghetti off yet... But I didn't like his approach vs Monaco in CL and against Milan as well. Those games vs small teams became a recurring pattern as well. Needs to get his shit together in those three games.
 
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I genuinely can’t remember the last time I woke up this upset about a game.

That first half was unacceptable, slow, timid and completely lacking urgency and that’s on Spaletti. In a game where basically the season is on the line I want players fuming from their mouths.

I dont see next year being any different, and I think after this Spaletti era we’ll look back and wonder how 80% of this fanbase convinced themselves this man was our savior.
 

RoiLezard

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Apr 7, 2018
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I am not willing to write Spaghetti off yet... But I didn't like his approach vs Monaco in CL and against Milan as well. Those games vs small teams became a recurring pattern as well. Needs to get his shit together in those three games.
I agree. And the worrying part is that this team keeps alternating between three weak mental patterns depending on the situation.

First, the lethargic attitude in games we should comfortably win like yesterday. In the draw in our first game against Verona, we got screwed by refereeing decisions, and you'd expect the team to come out furious and ready to destroy an already relegated side. Instead we play the way we did.

Second, the mentality in games like Monaco or Milan. Teams we're better than and can dominate if we actually impose ourselves. But instead we mirror their rhythm, lower ourselves to their pace, because the bare minimum seems acceptable.

And the third pattern is the most telling. The only time this team actually plays fearless and aggressive is when there's nothing left to lose. Down a man against Gala, after the Kalulu red against inter, down 1-3 vs Roma, losing 2-0 to Lazio at home, even earlier this season with Tudor, against Dortmund for example. Only then do they suddenly start playing football. That tells you everything about this squad mentally. Weak, fragile, inexperienced. Most of them don't have the quality for Juve, and even fewer have the mentality for a club where pressure is part of the identity. We also have zero serial winners in the squad. And on top of that, the bench depth is awful and the alternatives are useless.

Spalletti did get things wrong yesterday, but it's hard to awaken something in players that simply isn't there. That's why I'm not very confident anything fundamentally changes in the last three games.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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I agree. And the worrying part is that this team keeps alternating between three weak mental patterns depending on the situation.

First, the lethargic attitude in games we should comfortably win like yesterday. In the draw in our first game against Verona, we got screwed by refereeing decisions, and you'd expect the team to come out furious and ready to destroy an already relegated side. Instead we play the way we did.

Second, the mentality in games like Monaco or Milan. Teams we're better than and can dominate if we actually impose ourselves. But instead we mirror their rhythm, lower ourselves to their pace, because the bare minimum seems acceptable.

And the third pattern is the most telling. The only time this team actually plays fearless and aggressive is when there's nothing left to lose. Down a man against Gala, after the Kalulu red against inter, down 1-3 vs Roma, losing 2-0 to Lazio at home, even earlier this season with Tudor, against Dortmund for example. Only then do they suddenly start playing football. That tells you everything about this squad mentally. Weak, fragile, inexperienced. Most of them don't have the quality for Juve, and even fewer have the mentality for a club where pressure is part of the identity. We also have zero serial winners in the squad. And on top of that, the bench depth is awful and the alternatives are useless.

Spalletti did get things wrong yesterday, but it's hard to awaken something in players that simply isn't there. That's why I'm not very confident anything fundamentally changes in the last three games.
I also back him up for now. He seems to have the right ideas but indeed lacks the right players for his ideas.
I liked his analysis (even if obvious) that we need a player who is good at tight spaces.

I think we will make some changes in the summer and the team will look better next year but Inter will probably stay the team to beat. Its a move in the right direction even if still a bit below what we were used to.
 

CrimsonianKing

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Jan 16, 2013
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And yet another confirmation that the problem is not the manager and at the same time no matter who arrives instead won't be the solution either. The rot is way deeper than that and we are not addressing it.
We can all agree there’s something rotten within our management but I also feel the fact that playing an outdated slow side passing back and forth compact style of football doesn’t help. It really is a different sport compared to the other main leagues. The mentality in Italy has to change or they will stay behind.
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GarfielD

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May 21, 2009
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⚠️ #Spalletti could not hide his frustration after the draw with Verona. After the final whistle he made a promise to himself:
"I will not sleep. We need to be very harsh in our self-analysis."

The next day at training he was direct and sharp with the players, warning them that going through the motions is simply not good enough.

His message at the training ground was crystal clear: "If against Lecce, Fiorentina and Torino we think we can just do the minimum, then know that we will not go to the Champions League."

The #Bianconeri are described as good players who are too soft, unable to read danger and losing focus when pressure builds. Roma are rising fast and Como are still fighting. The next 3 games will decide everything. ( Tuttosport)
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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We can all agree there’s something rotten within our management but I also feel the fact that playing an outdated slow side passing back and forth compact style of football doesn’t help. It really is a different sport compared to the other main leagues. The mentality in Italy has to change or they will stay behind.
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Even if we bring a manager that will play in modern style with fast pace, progressive (to get the best out of our number 1) approach and direct football we will not get the results enough. Even if we stick out in Italy as being the most modern team, we will not succeed. The problems are way much more than manager and approach of playing style.
 

Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
13,324
⚠️ #Spalletti could not hide his frustration after the draw with Verona. After the final whistle he made a promise to himself:
"I will not sleep. We need to be very harsh in our self-analysis."

The next day at training he was direct and sharp with the players, warning them that going through the motions is simply not good enough.

His message at the training ground was crystal clear: "If against Lecce, Fiorentina and Torino we think we can just do the minimum, then know that we will not go to the Champions League."

The #Bianconeri are described as good players who are too soft, unable to read danger and losing focus when pressure builds. Roma are rising fast and Como are still fighting. The next 3 games will decide everything. ( Tuttosport)
Its on him to turn this around and win all remaining games, if he wont reach CL now, then he is the first to blame.
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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Its on him to turn this around and win all remaining games, if he wont reach CL now, then he is the first to blame.
Especially when it has been a recurring issue. He can stay all the week awake if he can't make these spoiled boys take responsibility for their disgusting behavior, then he should resign.
 

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