Randal Kolo Muani (99 Viewers)

Brny44

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Aug 24, 2020
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A lot of people laughed at this comment(@JuveJay, @MikeM , @campionesidd @Boksic ). Would like to remind said people that Vlahovic scored a hattrick for Besiktas.
Albeit the Turkish league is not as competitive as Serie A, I still think we made a huge mistake in not re-signing Vlahovic. He is miles better than Muani or Woltemade.
We should not extend vlahoshit nor buy randy. Management is useless and thats it.
 

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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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A lot of people laughed at this comment(@JuveJay, @MikeM , @campionesidd @Boksic ). Would like to remind said people that Vlahovic scored a hattrick for Besiktas.
Albeit the Turkish league is not as competitive as Serie A, I still think we made a huge mistake in not re-signing Vlahovic. He is miles better than Muani or Woltemade.
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33 big chances missed during the two full seasons he played for us. (and another 8 when he was randomly available last season.)

if he was available for 4-5m net, it would be a different discussion. but never ever a player like this deserves 10m net per season (his wages at besiktas), let alone 12m net, his actual wages at jj during his last 2 seasons.
 

Zzak

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Sep 11, 2014
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33 big chances missed during the two full seasons he played for us. (and another 8 when he was randomly available last season.)

if he was available for 4-5m net, it would be a different discussion. but never ever a player like this deserves 10m net per season (his wages at besiktas), let alone 12m net, his actual wages at jj during his last 2 seasons.
You can't compare him to Koop or Nicky G who play different roles. He needs to be compared with other strikers in Serie A. Curious how he did vs Martinez for example
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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A lot of people laughed at this comment(@JuveJay, @MikeM , @campionesidd @Boksic ). Would like to remind said people that Vlahovic scored a hattrick for Besiktas.
Albeit the Turkish league is not as competitive as Serie A, I still think we made a huge mistake in not re-signing Vlahovic. He is miles better than Muani or Woltemade.
He needs to be the centre of the project, just like he was at Fiorentina, only then will you see a Vlahovic. Here, theres no chance he is surrounded by other highly priced and overpaid players.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Big clubs like Barcelona and Madrid stay patient and get their Alvarez and Mbappe on their terms. Players they have been attempting to acquire for years.

Contrast this with us. Our dream stricker is Kolo Muani AND we drop 50M on him. Top clubs would never do this.

Something is rotten here.
 

Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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The competition with Woltemade should do him good if he is ready to push his limits, can’t be allowed to relax or rest on his laurels, which might’ve very well been the case when your main competition is David or the likes…

Now what’d be very ironic(although not surprising) is if our €50M worth of investment in ST ends up getting benched more often than not by someone that only joined on deadline day via a dry loan, then ofc ideally we’ll see them playing together many times too but considering the lack of reliable depth at ST it’s more likely we’ll see them rotating between eachother.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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The competition with Woltemade should do him good if he is ready to push his limits, can’t be allowed to relax or rest on his laurels, which might’ve very well been the case when your main competition is David or the likes…

Now what’d be very ironic(although not surprising) is if our €50M worth of investment in ST ends up getting benched more often than not by someone that only joined on deadline day via a dry loan, then ofc ideally we’ll see them playing together many times too but considering the lack of reliable depth at ST it’s more likely we’ll see them rotating between eachother.
i wouldnt be surprised to see both of them on the field together, especially if Spalletti keeps playing the 4231. This is just off what ive read so who knows how true it is, but it seems Woltemade works better as a playmaker than a guy leading the line.
 

Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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i wouldnt be surprised to see both of them on the field together, especially if Spalletti keeps playing the 4231. This is just off what ive read so who knows how true it is, but it seems Woltemade works better as a playmaker than a guy leading the line.
It surely is not unlikely, there will definitely be games where we’ll probably play them together too but at the same time i assume we’ll more often than not use one of them as an impact sub because we don’t have many of those either, more so now with Yildiz and Thuram out for a long time.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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A lot of people laughed at this comment(@JuveJay, @MikeM , @campionesidd @Boksic ). Would like to remind said people that Vlahovic scored a hattrick for Besiktas.
Albeit the Turkish league is not as competitive as Serie A, I still think we made a huge mistake in not re-signing Vlahovic. He is miles better than Muani or Woltemade.
If you want to tell me that there is a ball teed inside the box or just outside and Vlahovic hits it better, I agree. He also may be better than Muani in top form.

I think Woltemade is a different class of talent, an actual pure footballer. If your team makes hundreds of chances maybe Vlahovic IS the right choice, I did think that at times myself. But he's clearly not a top. Because he was free and he's at Besiktas
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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A lot of people laughed at this comment(@JuveJay, @MikeM , @campionesidd @Boksic ). Would like to remind said people that Vlahovic scored a hattrick for Besiktas.
Albeit the Turkish league is not as competitive as Serie A, I still think we made a huge mistake in not re-signing Vlahovic. He is miles better than Muani or Woltemade.
He's a #9 so he should score more goals than Muani or Woltemade. But you're never going to convince me he was worth extending at that price. We have seasons of being able to judge this, as opposed to one game against Superlig fodder.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Big clubs like Barcelona and Madrid stay patient and get their Alvarez and Mbappe on their terms. Players they have been attempting to acquire for years.

Contrast this with us. Our dream stricker is Kolo Muani AND we drop 50M on him. Top clubs would never do this.

Something is rotten here.
They also have 2.5 times our revenue, which is useful. We're no longer a big club in that sense. And it is most likely the case that players have never seen us as the top destination like certainly Real Madrid are, and to a lesser extent Barcelona. At least not in 20 years. But this is also the case for any Premier League team, including the best ones. PL clubs rarely sign real superstars like the Spanish two do, but they do make them and have infinite money.

Muani will most likely not end up being worth 50m, and it is a weird fixation on our part. We need to make a top striker from somewhere, identify them before Brighton sign them or Chelsea add as 4th choice. That's our current reality, and the mismanagement compounds it. We aren't at the top table and have years of good work ahead to get near it.
 

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