Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (35 Viewers)

GordoDeCentral

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They will do whatever they want with Ukraine and none of the countries will oppose. Sooner or later the NS2 will happen too, because EU market cant afford for it to wont happen (actually German market).
The question is which country is next unfortunately.
Also once China sees Russia can do what they want expect them to abuse the international rules too.

I also dont think any particular country or leader is here to blame - Russia would never let Ukraine join NATO, because they see this countries as their influence zone. And since their are not in NATO none of the countries will help them.
Weakness is to blame, an old senile fuck pepped on amphetamines handled by spineless degenerates occupies the white house, you just inviting trouble.
 
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That's absolutely not true. Maybe in terms of foreign policy it is, but the main difference is in how countries treat their own population, and from that perspective the West is far superior to the rest of the world without question.

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I was certainly referring to foreign policy

Its common knowledge that a journalist in The Netherlands has a better life than in Russia, no denial there

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They will do whatever they want with Ukraine and none of the countries will oppose. Sooner or later the NS2 will happen too, because EU market cant afford for it to wont happen (actually German market).
The question is which country is next unfortunately.
Also once China sees Russia can do what they want expect them to abuse the international rules too.

I also dont think any particular country or leader is here to blame - Russia would never let Ukraine join NATO, because they see this countries as their influence zone. And since their are not in NATO none of the countries will help them.
The timing with the pipelines is horrible for Europe. The Netherlands has one of the biggest gas fields, but they’ll have to close over time as they’re causing (small) earthquakes.

But honestly I wasn’t expecting this decision.
 
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Elvin

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I was certainly referring to foreign policy

Its common knowledge that a journalist in The Netherlands has a better life than in Russia, no denial there

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The timing with the pipelines is horrible for Europe. The Netherlands has one of the biggest gas fields, but they’ll have to close over time as they’re causing (small) earthquakes.

But honestly I wasn’t expecting this decision.
No, not just a journalist, literally EVERYONE.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Yeah, this auto flagellation is getting boring. Idk what causes it. Is the West ideal? Obviously not. Is it better than other sides of the world? Obviously yes.
Exactly. Its not, and especially when it comes to foreign policy, and power relations, they may be as ruthless as anyone else. But thats where the comparison ends. As soon as you start looking at how states treat their citizens, to even begin to compare is delusional. No, the west is vastly superior morally to the rest, lets not get that twisted. That kind of thinking is what leads to apologism for the likes of Russia and China.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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I was certainly referring to foreign policy

Its common knowledge that a journalist in The Netherlands has a better life than in Russia, no denial there

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The timing with the pipelines is horrible for Europe. The Netherlands has one of the biggest gas fields, but they’ll have to close over time as they’re causing (small) earthquakes.

But honestly I wasn’t expecting this decision.
Like Elvin said, not just a journalist. Everyone!
 
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    So Russia recognizes the new "people's republics", sends in troops into said areas, starts shelling the fuck out of stuff, blames it on Ukraine being under the control of the US, then gains approval to protect them by sending troops outside the border. All of this is so predictable.

     

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