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Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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The US has labs in their own country. It's not exactly a great leap to think that these are either to help former bloc countries defend themselves, provide a first line of defence for the US themselves against diseases potentially used by Russia, or just in the interest of shared scientific information, as we see in effect now with Covid-19, or all of those things. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy or threat at every turn.

The US has their fingers in pies all across the world, from science to military. They have strong agreements with the EU, G7, Australia, Korea etc. Countries like Russia and China would prefer to have these things for themselves, so they go about it in different ways, whilst trying to destabilise US interests. It's all geopolitical manoeuvring.
Are there Russian and Chinese bio labs outside of their countries? (honest question)
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
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The US has labs in their own country. It's not exactly a great leap to think that these are either to help former bloc countries defend themselves, provide a first line of defence for the US themselves against diseases potentially used by Russia, or just in the interest of shared scientific information, as we see in effect now with Covid-19, or all of those things. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy or threat at every turn.

The US has their fingers in pies all across the world, from science to military. They have strong agreements with the EU, G7, Australia, Korea etc. Countries like Russia and China would prefer to have these things for themselves, so they go about it in different ways, whilst trying to destabilise US interests. It's all geopolitical manoeuvring.
It's not that one for sure :grin:

Rest is quite possible. Dont disagree, but still wouldn't rule out the more sinister options
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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It probably started from here. But if anything sensitive was there they wouldn't publish it in the first place. But that link is online as we saw.

If it's all clean slate I don't know why delete such things since they can always be found if they were online. And if all is clear, don't know why fear getting it in Russian's hands if it's research meds and stuff.
 

j0ker

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Jan 5, 2006
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If it's all clean slate I don't know why delete such things since they can always be found if they were online. And if all is clear, don't know why fear getting it in Russian's hands if it's research meds and stuff.
She pretedens that they deleted them, but they didn't. They are online, you can check for yourself.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Are there Russian and Chinese bio labs outside of their countries? (honest question)
Probably not. But the US is far and away the world leader in the biotech sector. China is a distant second but is an increasingly insular (in recent years at least) authoritarian capitalist country, it can't be compared to how the US operates politically. Russia has a tiny economy in comparison to those two, and doesn't even feature in the discussion for this sector.
 

Lancelot

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Oct 24, 2011
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The US has labs in their own country. It's not exactly a great leap to think that these are either to help former bloc countries defend themselves, provide a first line of defence for the US themselves against diseases potentially used by Russia, or just in the interest of shared scientific information, as we see in effect now with Covid-19, or all of those things. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy or threat at every turn.

The US has their fingers in pies all across the world, from science to military. They have strong agreements with the EU, G7, Australia, Korea etc. Countries like Russia and China would prefer to have these things for themselves, so they go about it in different ways, whilst trying to destabilise US interests. It's all geopolitical manoeuvring.
I understand what you are saying, trying hard to believe the mainstream media and US administration that all of it is for "defense purposes", which we all know is not, especially since the US did not want to sign and ratify the BWC protocol against bioweapons. But, does that mean that you, and the US administration would be totally fine if Russia and China had 100+ biolabs on the border with US (Canada and Mexico, maybe Cuba as well), also for defense purposes?
 

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