Tiago Mendes (4 Viewers)

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
47,928
I wasn't a fan of Tiago before he came to Juventus, and he hasn't really impressed me either. He didn't work hard enough on the pitch.

Currently our midfield looks like this

RM: Camoranesi, Marcchionni
CM+DM: Sissoko, Zanetti, Ekdal, Marchisio, Poulsen
LM+OM: Nedved, Giovinco, Rossi (+ De Ceglie)

I think thats a decent midfield.. Providing no loans are made.
:agree: would still love to see a certain Spaniard in the CM dept. though ;)
 

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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,470
This is the original from Corriere dello sport

Andrade, Tiago, Almiron: i tre flop dell’anno passato come li spiega?

Ranieri : Nel calcio ci stanno anche i flop e qualche volta non riesci a fartene una ragione. Ancora adesso molti tifosi ma anche alcuni giocatori, mi dicono di insistere su Tiago considerato da tutta Europa un grande giocatore. Lo*, ma il calcio vive anche di strani misteri.


Goal.com translation was ok. Ranieri didn't say directly that Tiago was a flop but indirectly he did.
 

rvi

l'amour toujours
Apr 5, 2007
2,033
Tiago vacates Turin home
Thursday 31 July, 2008
Juventus midfield outcast Tiago Mendes could be set for an immediate exit after he moved out of his house in Turin.

The Portuguese international suffered a miserable first season in Serie A despite arriving from Lyon with high hopes.

And he hasn’t made the grade in pre-season, missing a penalty in the Trofeo TIM against Milan.

Coach Claudio Ranieri has hinted that Tiago could be on his way and admits that he has been a flop.

“All over Europe he is considered to be a great player,” the Juve boss said. “But calcio throws up some strange mysteries.

“There are flops in Italian football and sometimes it seems to make no sense. But there are lots of fans who want me to continue with Tiago.”

Tiago has reportedly cancelled the lease on his house in Turin and is in a hotel while his family have returned to Portugal.

The 27-year-old’s next destination is still unclear but he has been linked to Benfica in recent weeks

>> from : Channel4.com
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,506
Cronios, you could do better than this..
If Tiago doesn't want to go, why he dont prove his point on pitch. Do you think we can afford paying and not getting results? Im sure not even Andy bought his shirt.
He is the guy who should be equal to someone like Alonso. Players talk with feet and not hiding behind the ball.
All supporters were behind him as always. But he never impressed , never, not even single game..He was good, or average but never impressed anyone.

Why are you saying that CR is someone's pawn? Cos he is less payed coach than any of the top teams, cos he took pay cut even he could get 3 times more from Man. City?
Cos he has to work with players which are thrown at him and with limited budget? He has been always positive about Juve and players, and Tiago too. You should know better.
CR done more than any other coach would do for Juve in last season, and that is thank you to him?
Or you say this cos its been interpreted by media again?

Tiago had offer from Tottenham last january, but he kindly refused.

However what really makes me happy, is that we will stop talking about him very soon, and start talking about Rossi, Ekdal, Gio, De Cegle, Marchiso, (Molinaro) and so on..

Tiago wants to go, but he only wants to go in a competitive Spanish team, like Atletico madrid,where his flicks are enough to save the day,
they can also offer him the salary he wants and the room he needs to breather. It seems that he is afraid to go again, in physically challenging championship like the EPL.
We had some decent offer from decent EPL teams, but he turned them down because of that, thats his interest, but not Juve's.
He was a victim of our defensive tactical choice in the midfield,
but the situation is now irreversible, he has done litle to improve his situation, we have to off load him for his own good and ours
and he has to accept the best offer that appears, he ought to do that and yet...

By the day CR took over, it never seemed that he actually "took over",
our board demonstrated clearly with DD's departure that they want a pawn at the "helm", someone who wouldnt ask for more,
someone who would declare pleased with the faulty decisions our managers perform,
someone who would back up our board praising their decisions and the mediocre material they are bringing in,
someone who would keep the balance in every aspect without protests
and CR did just that...
I do believe that CR is smarter and more experienced than our nooby managers, he knows better than that, but he is used as a pawn
and i m sure that, when the times comes, he will take the blame instead of the real guilty ones, who took all those faulty decisions.

By the day he came i ve noticed how they use him as a pawn and the Tiago case is just another example.
When everybody hated Tiago and named him a flop, CR was the only one defending him and praising his hard work at training, both to boost his morale but also because he was ordered to protect Secco's faulty decisions, with the signs of Tiago and Almiron.
If CR was blaming our managers then, then we should have to off load Secco, because he would have taken the blame.
Now all of a sudden, when our board cannot convince Tiago to accept an offer to a lesser club and probably with a smaller salary, our board's tool, CR comes up to save the day again, making politics for them and publicly accusing the player who have been protecting all along, just another proof of my theory...
 

- vOnAm -

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2004
3,779
Tiago for Stankovic?

football quality wise, not so bad, but I have a feeling Mourinho will turn Tiago into a player we havent seen at Juve. Much rather sell abroad than suffer heartache.

If we're getting Stankovic the only deal I'll accept is Secco for Stankovic.
 

v1rtu4l

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2008
6,349
i guess the tiago stankovic swap would not be bad ... mourinho won't get anything out of tiago if he does not change his 4-3-3 formation that won't work in serie a.
 

Amaurisimo

Senior Member
Dec 8, 2007
4,622
Tiago wants to go, but he only wants to go in a competitive Spanish team, like Atletico madrid,where his flicks are enough to save the day,
they can also offer him the salary he wants and the room he needs to breather. It seems that he is afraid to go again, in physically challenging championship like the EPL.
We had some decent offer from decent EPL teams, but he turned them down because of that, thats his interest, but not Juve's.
He was a victim of our defensive tactical choice in the midfield,
but the situation is now irreversible, he has done litle to improve his situation, we have to off load him for his own good and ours
and he has to accept the best offer that appears, he ought to do that and yet...

By the day CR took over, it never seemed that he actually "took over",
our board demonstrated clearly with DD's departure that they want a pawn at the "helm", someone who wouldnt ask for more,
someone who would declare pleased with the faulty decisions our managers perform,
someone who would back up our board praising their decisions and the mediocre material they are bringing in,
someone who would keep the balance in every aspect without protests
and CR did just that...
I do believe that CR is smarter and more experienced than our nooby managers, he knows better than that, but he is used as a pawn
and i m sure that, when the times comes, he will take the blame instead of the real guilty ones, who took all those faulty decisions.

By the day he came i ve noticed how they use him as a pawn and the Tiago case is just another example.
When everybody hated Tiago and named him a flop, CR was the only one defending him and praising his hard work at training, both to boost his morale but also because he was ordered to protect Secco's faulty decisions, with the signs of Tiago and Almiron.
If CR was blaming our managers then, then we should have to off load Secco, because he would have taken the blame.
Now all of a sudden, when our board cannot convince Tiago to accept an offer to a lesser club and probably with a smaller salary, our board's tool, CR comes up to save the day again, making politics for them and publicly accusing the player who have been protecting all along, just another proof of my theory...

Well its all partially true.
You know very well that because of injuries in our defense line we had to change tactic and as you also said he become " victim of our defensive tactical choice in the midfield". You can not blame Ranieri for that, every sensible coach would do the same. But also he was not the player in first place that CR would want him anyway, as he doesnt fit in CR's 442 or 433 system.

My point is that no matter how many chances he had, and he had them more than enough, he did not prove his worth.
In regards that Ranieri was behind him, well CR was always behind every player, and he was not covering up for management or Secco, also players in training's were praising Tiago, well maybe cos he was part of team, anyway.

I wish Tiago more luck, but i will be over the moon if he goes to Inter and we get Stankovic.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,107
Tiago for Stankovic?

football quality wise, not so bad, but I have a feeling Mourinho will turn Tiago into a player we havent seen at Juve. Much rather sell abroad than suffer heartache.

If we're getting Stankovic the only deal I'll accept is Secco for Stankovic.
I would love that to happen just to prove Dominic wrong about Tiago
 

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