Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Not too bad, what? You serious? That shift fucking sucks. You're done at 20:00? It literally kills your whole day. You can't use your morning normally while big part of a day is butchered. I always hated that shift, plus second shift when you finish at 22:00.
No it isn't a "shift" per se. My normal work time hasn't changed. But since i'm working from home, I'd rather do that from the UAE. Sure because of time difference you end up working a little weirder hours 12-8 or 9. But on the flipside NL is in full lockdown, and here its 25 degrees, everything is open etc. At least i can enjoy the weekends haha.

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hell of a knockout tho
indeed. love him or hate him. the guy can pack a punch. He's only been doing it a few years, and he's knocking out combat sport athletes. Woodley isn't a boxer, but he is a top combat sports athlete, to beat him twice and knock him out in this fashion is respectable. How many UFC fighters have knocked out Woodley?
 

Dostoevsky

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No it isn't a "shift" per se. My normal work time hasn't changed. But since i'm working from home, I'd rather do that from the UAE. Sure because of time difference you end up working a little weirder hours 12-8 or 9. But on the flipside NL is in full lockdown, and here its 25 degrees, everything is open etc. At least i can enjoy the weekends haha.
How? And... why? What's the % of the vaccine over there?
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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How? And... why? What's the % of the vaccine over there?
Its terrible. Only essential shops are allowed to open. Gyms, restaurants, bars, cafes etc all closed for a month.

The vaccination rate is not that bad i think. But they are paying the price for full opening in September and October. Vaccines don't stop transmission, they reduce likelihood of hospitalization and death. As horrible as these lockdowns are, i think at this point the healthcare system in NL is on the brink. So unfortunately its necessary.
 

Dostoevsky

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Its terrible. Only essential shops are allowed to open. Gyms, restaurants, bars, cafes etc all closed for a month.

The vaccination rate is not that bad i think. But they are paying the price for full opening in September and October. Vaccines don't stop transmission, they reduce likelihood of hospitalization and death. As horrible as these lockdowns are, i think at this point the healthcare system in NL is on the brink. So unfortunately its necessary.
But there was a lockdown when there wasn't a vaccine and now there's a lockdown when majority took both doses. That's just great.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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But there was a lockdown when there wasn't a vaccine and now there's a lockdown when majority took both doses. That's just great.
But i don;t understand what do you suggest?
Hospitals in the Netherlands are once again sending patients to Germany. They are postponing organ transplants and chemotherapy. Many of them are having to turn away patients not in critical condition. If infections kept going at the same rate, there wouldn't be enough ICU beds. These are real things that are happening. Listen, I hate these lockdowns as much as anyone. That's why i left and came here for a while. But really what else is the solution, something has to be done to stop the healthcare system from being overwhelmed.
 

Dostoevsky

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But i don;t understand what do you suggest?
Hospitals in the Netherlands are once again sending patients to Germany. They are postponing organ transplants and chemotherapy. Many of them are having to turn away patients not in critical condition. If infections kept going at the same rate, there wouldn't be enough ICU beds. These are real things that are happening. Listen, I hate these lockdowns as much as anyone. That's why i left and came here for a while. But really what else is the solution, something has to be done to stop the healthcare system from being overwhelmed.
How exactly did vaccine help when you have crashed medical system? Huge chunk of people took the vaccine. Situation with the hospitals is exactly the same like before. If so many people took the vaccine then how come hospitals aren't at 50-60% capacity?
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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How exactly did vaccine help when you have crashed medical system? Huge chunk of people took the vaccine. Situation with the hospitals is exactly the same like before. If so many people took the vaccine then how come hospitals aren't at 50-60% capacity?
Because the infection rate has gone way up.

Besides the majority of people in IC is not vaccinated (at worst it's a 50/50 ratio). This is odd, because only a very small minority of Dutch in general are not vaccinated. Surely if the vaccines didn't work, you'd expect the majority in IC to be vaccinated, which is simply not the case.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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But i don;t understand what do you suggest?
Hospitals in the Netherlands are once again sending patients to Germany. They are postponing organ transplants and chemotherapy. Many of them are having to turn away patients not in critical condition. If infections kept going at the same rate, there wouldn't be enough ICU beds. These are real things that are happening. Listen, I hate these lockdowns as much as anyone. That's why i left and came here for a while. But really what else is the solution, something has to be done to stop the healthcare system from being overwhelmed.
Sounds just like the politicians "listen i really hate to fuck up your lives, of course mine won't be affected, but there's no choice, peasants".
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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How exactly did vaccine help when you have crashed medical system? Huge chunk of people took the vaccine. Situation with the hospitals is exactly the same like before. If so many people took the vaccine then how come hospitals aren't at 50-60% capacity?
Good luck getting anyone to admit they were wrong, be it the corrupt politicians or the people who got duped into listening to them.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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Always been a dream of mine to move abroad and start a new life somewhere.

Now with just over 24 hours left in my home country, I feel heartbroken leaving. It's like there's a black hole in my chest.

Has anyone ever felt this way when moving countries? Man, I'm gonna miss my family.
I would say that you can always return home for a visit but due to the carbon rationing to come that's not gonna be possible for much longer. So get those goodbyes in properly.
 

Dostoevsky

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Always been a dream of mine to move abroad and start a new life somewhere.

Now with just over 24 hours left in my home country, I feel heartbroken leaving. It's like there's a black hole in my chest.

Has anyone ever felt this way when moving countries? Man, I'm gonna miss my family.
I never left but I always had that feeling just thinking about the scenario. Having a decent pay here would make me MUCH more happy than going abroad for a great pay. IMO I'd lose more, despite the healthier financial situation which is pretty much a guarantee.
 

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