Siamak

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Someone told me they're going to start their PhD in psychology. But they don't know who Carl Jung is...

What?
A PhD and postdoc are simply academic titles, in reality, they focus more on research and publishing papers than on training someone for a specific profession. You should look at the person’s academic background, what kind of research they’ve done and how many journal articles they’ve published.
I have one question: which university do they attend? I’d be interested to know its ranking. Reputable universities don’t admit PhD candidates easily, they usually require a strong academic background along with relevant professional experience in the field of study.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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A PhD and postdoc are simply academic titles, in reality, they focus more on research and publishing papers than on training someone for a specific profession. You should look at the person’s academic background, what kind of research they’ve done and how many journal articles they’ve published.
I have one question: which university do they attend? I’d be interested to know its ranking. Reputable universities don’t admit PhD candidates easily, they usually require a strong academic background along with relevant professional experience in the field of study.
I don't know what university, but it shouldn't matter. This is the foundation of psychology

wait so this person is not just beginning their journey into this field, they already have a Masters and don't know who Jung is?
I just asked how it's possible to not know and she replied that it's not that she never heard of him, just forgot his name because there are many theorists :boh:
 

Siamak

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I don't know what university, but it shouldn't matter. This is the foundation of psychology


I just asked how it's possible to not know and she replied that it's not that she never heard of him, just forgot his name because there are many theorists :boh:
Some universities, especially those that lack credibility and have no real standing in global rankings don’t impose strict requirements for admission. Their main goal is simply to have PhD students in programs that otherwise have no applicants. Recently, I’ve even noticed that some reputable universities seem to be more flexible with admissions and accept a large number of students without requiring strong academic research, publications in reputable journals, or even proof of language proficiency. Because of the shortage of PhD applicants, they sometimes sacrifice quality for quantity. I have a master’s degree myself and applied to a few European universities. I was accepted quite easily. What was even more surprising was that they contacted me and followed up to make sure I had everything needed to complete the enrollment process.
I currently have one journal publication and I’m trying to publish a second one in a Scopus or Springer journal. I believe I have sufficient knowledge and relevant work experience in my field, but honestly, I would prefer to receive funding. A PhD is essentially a profession in many ways, since the student contributes to the university through research and academic work.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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Some universities, especially those that lack credibility and have no real standing in global rankings don’t impose strict requirements for admission. Their main goal is simply to have PhD students in programs that otherwise have no applicants. Recently, I’ve even noticed that some reputable universities seem to be more flexible with admissions and accept a large number of students without requiring strong academic research, publications in reputable journals, or even proof of language proficiency. Because of the shortage of PhD applicants, they sometimes sacrifice quality for quantity. I have a master’s degree myself and applied to a few European universities. I was accepted quite easily. What was even more surprising was that they contacted me and followed up to make sure I had everything needed to complete the enrollment process.
I currently have one journal publication and I’m trying to publish a second one in a Scopus or Springer journal. I believe I have sufficient knowledge and relevant work experience in my field, but honestly, I would prefer to receive funding. A PhD is essentially a profession in many ways, since the student contributes to the university through research and academic work.
She's a rich girl, I don't think she went to a scam school. Probably just liked the idea of being a counselor or therapist or something and went for it.

As things stand, astrology has more legitimacy than psychology. DSM is a big fat joke.
I agree with that for the most part, especially re DSM and psychiatry in general. Though I find some Jungian concepts interesting and useful. I wouldn't say the whole field is as useless as astrology
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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She's a rich girl, I don't think she went to a scam school. Probably just liked the idea of being a counselor or therapist or something and went for it.


I agree with that for the most part, especially re DSM and psychiatry in general. Though I find some Jungian concepts interesting and useful. I wouldn't say the whole field is as useless as astrology
Modern psychology is largely dismissive of Jung. They will tell you it's because he was too metaphysical/mystical , but really it's because he saw neurosis as always a substitute for legitimate suffering. And we can't hold people accountable now can we?
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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Modern psychology is largely dismissive of Jung. They will tell you it's because he was too metaphysical/mystical , but really it's because he saw neurosis as always a substitute for legitimate suffering. And we can't hold people accountable now can we?
What do you make of a disorder like schizophrenia? Do you think it's not a legit illness? I know someone diagnosed with it - paranoia, delusions, hallucinations... believed to possibly have been triggered by drug use. She was treated with medicine that seems to have helped her live as normal as before.
 

GordoDeCentral

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What do you make of a disorder like schizophrenia? Do you think it's not a legit illness? I know someone diagnosed with it - paranoia, delusions, hallucinations... believed to possibly have been triggered by drug use. She was treated with medicine that seems to have helped her live as normal as before.
Yeah psychosis definitely is a disorder and as you said the meds are lifesavers for people suffering from schizophrenia, and that puts it more on the psychiatric side of things.
 

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