World Cup 2026 - General Talk (163 Viewers)

May 5, 2004
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That they handed the France - Morocco game to an all Argentinian refereeing team is definitely something that should be investigated.

Is it even normal for any quarter finalist to have a game refereed by a national of another quarter finalist?

We had refs from Honduras and Jordan. Surely they can find refs that do not come from any of the 8 remaining countries.

Don't get me wrong. I don't know these Argentinian refs. I'm not calling them out. I hope (and believe) they have integrity and will do their jobs. But it's weird.
This match for Argentine refereeing by France

I actually hope all matches officiates all by Italian as they dont have interest

At least they will let hard tackle, tug of shirt, hauling the body . More controversy , better marketing
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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The goal was rightly ruled out, u guys are always looking for a conspiracy. The only question here is if Salah was fouled before Argentina third. Didn't see a good replay of it.
Salah was 50-50, but the third goal should have stood IMO. Argentina had 4-5 players in position to recover and it was minimal touch on martinez, had that been a reverse lets say Martinez was in egypts box and fouled i would say thats a 50-50 too, and similar situation.

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May 5, 2004
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There was one thing against Austria too
Never think that MacAllister challenge was foul. He press that Austrian player and he just jump looking for foul

But in this World Cup I saw there are initiative to let the ball play and some hand grabbed shirr grabbed are being overlooked

Especially for a player going down looking for foul

I think we should better have no referee on the field, but more of like a 15 referee as a panel referee. In separate room that give call. So with odd numbers the call will always one is higher than the other and that being taken as the decision. So the decision is a consensus

For example 10 referee called foul 5 is not then it is foul. And just use a big speaker to blow the whistle. Give them all the best angle they can monitor

And we will never have referee blocking the shoot or passes

One thing is because even every league look some challenge differently
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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So no controversies at all, I like Egypt yesterday, very good team, unfortunately they lost
I do think refs are soft on Argentina.

Not sure I'd say they are being told to or that they just love the midget too much.

Either way it's not like there has been some big, scandalous decision apart from maybe that Messi should have had a red card in the first game.

Their run up so far has been ridiculous though.

Easy group, then Cabo Verde and Egypt, now Switzerland. With all due respect for these teams, Argentina will face proper opposition for the first time in the seminfinal.

I'm not talking about conspiracies or whatever. Just takes away from their tournament so far.

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May 5, 2004
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I do think refs are soft on Argentina.

Not sure I'd say they are being told to or that they just love the midget too much.

Either way it's not like there has been some big, scandalous decision apart from maybe that Messi should have had a red card in the first game.

Their run up so far has been ridiculous though.

Easy group, then Cabo Verde and Egypt, now Switzerland. With all due respect for these teams, Argentina will face proper opposition for the first time in the seminfinal.

I'm not talking about conspiracies or whatever. Just takes away from their tournament so far.

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Same as like ref soft for Paraguay. If I put my positive view here. It is because the game in south america are different hard on the challenge

Maybe they use the harder one rules. Or at least they expected that to happen and expected their opponent will falling down on every touch looking for foul

The only dubious call for me is when Salah almost through from their own midfield but called foul against him. That should be play on
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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I'm perplexed with the Mexicans, in a way its admirable to stay positive but they lost against england and still celebrated. They were not begrudged with the english and their banter throw it at your face celebrations, instead they didnt gave a shit. They congratulated them (English), treated their fans well and still partied lol. What a nation!


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I do think refs are soft on Argentina.

Not sure I'd say they are being told to or that they just love the midget too much.

Either way it's not like there has been some big, scandalous decision apart from maybe that Messi should have had a red card in the first game.

Their run up so far has been ridiculous though.

Easy group, then Cabo Verde and Egypt, now Switzerland. With all due respect for these teams, Argentina will face proper opposition for the first time in the seminfinal.

I'm not talking about conspiracies or whatever. Just takes away from their tournament so far.

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Im not sure how long this video will stay up, but yeah a lot of soft calls.

 
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Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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While I understand frustration about VAR and the cancelled goal for Egypt, but it’s also funny to see people shocked as they never seen a situation like that before, and that is telling.

How many similar goals we (Juve) got denied…
Reminded me of a goal they cancelled for us against Atalanta years ago. A supposed foul by Mandzukic about 70 seconds before the goal was scored lol. Absolutely pathetic use of this technology and nothing has changed.
 
Mar 16, 2004
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I'm perplexed with the Mexicans, in a way its admirable to stay positive but they lost against england and still celebrated. They were not begrudged with the english and their banter throw it at your face celebrations, instead they didnt gave a shit. They congratulated them (English), treated their fans well and still partied lol. What a nation!

Don't be fooled. If England was located where the US is now, they would throw bags of piss at them.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Its not about Messi as much, there's not much to dislike him for this world cup, besides bad PKs, he has been very clinical and precise with his minimalist type movement and attacks.


I found his play last world cup less impressive then this one so far despite last world cup being great at playmaking. But lacking real edge to his individual offense, just living at the pk spot.



What's annoying people is, no its not rigged, the Egyptians are being sore losers (focus for 20 fucking minutes ffs), but CLEARLY they are the most favoured side in this world cup. Almost every game there's significant or small decisions just going their way. People are just asking for more fair refereeing.



But truthfully we should worry about them this much, yeah they showing character with the comebacks. But a team getting almost rocked and shocked by Cabo Verde and Egypt, arent far for this tournament IMO.

Their general play is so mediocre so far this WC. Besides Messi prolific plays they surviving on headers and being too conservative in approach.


First good team they face will really trouble them enough to kick them out.


Which I hope is Colombia next game if they go through now, because I surely do not wanna root for an England win in next stage after that lol. I have not liked an England team since the 96 euro team JuveJay mentioned (when I was too young to have football hate in my heart yet lol).


But honestly this Kane and this Bellingham is not hard to root for if it comes to it. Both very dynamic and likeable stars.
England can surely defeat them but then again its not a one sided thing.
France is obviously a level above even if Argentina eventually win it. I think France should fire their manager should he not bring the WC with him, they are levels above Argentina in terms of quality.
Better defence better mid better attack, the only thing Argentina have over France is Messi..

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So youd happily take corruption over whining? One can be ignored, the other impacts a team progress
Well I wouldnt call it corruption but yeah, I hate to hear whinings, and it goes for Juve as well - When we lose we arent good enough, mistakes and decisions could go both ways - This is unless a clear error is made (like the offside which the camera didnt catch one player who made it on-side.
I even regret the whinings I personally made over that loss against Real Madrid (I mean the 3-1 win that wasnt enough) - Yeah I dont think it was a penalty but its a different thing from something that you cant even argue about.
Whining is what I call a Napoli mentality (No side in Serie A can even be compared to them in terms of whining and there are definitely whiners out there.)
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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England can surely defeat them but then again its not a one sided thing.
France is obviously a level above even if Argentina eventually win it. I think France should fire their manager should he not bring the WC with him, they are levels above Argentina in terms of quality.
Better defence better mid better attack, the only thing Argentina have over France is Messi..
France is so much better than everyone else that not winning the World Cup is a poor result by any means. Not even reaching the final can be considered good. But they have go through Morocca and (most likely) Spain and those will be tough matches. They're definitely superior, but it's close enough that one mistake could ruin it all.
 
Apr 15, 2005
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While I understand frustration about VAR and the cancelled goal for Egypt, but it’s also funny to see people shocked as they never seen a situation like that before, and that is telling.

How many similar goals we (Juve) got denied…
The bigger talking point should be how Egypt didn’t have a penalty when Argentina countered for the 3rd goal.

Salah was clearly fouled inside the box and they didn’t even bother reviewing it.

I don’t know if FIFA wants Argentina to win the whole thing or not, but they want to milk Messi as far as possible. Potentially hope for a blockbuster France again.


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PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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Well I wouldnt call it corruption but yeah, I hate to hear whinings, and it goes for Juve as well - When we lose we arent good enough, mistakes and decisions could go both ways - This is unless a clear error is made (like the offside which the camera didnt catch one player who made it on-side.
I even regret the whinings I personally made over that loss against Real Madrid (I mean the 3-1 win that wasnt enough) - Yeah I dont think it was a penalty but its a different thing from something that you cant even argue about.
Whining is what I call a Napoli mentality (No side in Serie A can even be compared to them in terms of whining and there are definitely whiners out there.)

I think we are all whiners, some more than others, its human to complain, its also human to accept defeat in grace. Where the line begins and ends its subjective. I wouldnt call Egyptian whiners unless id they do it all the time aka Nipples. Senegal on the other hand id agree with, it seems everything is injustice for them though at times, they're not wrong.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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The bigger talking point should be how Egypt didn’t have a penalty when Argentina countered for the 3rd goal.

Salah was clearly fouled inside the box and they didn’t even bother reviewing it.

I don’t know if FIFA wants Argentina to win the whole thing or not, but they want to milk Messi as far as possible. Potentially hope for a blockbuster France again.


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Actually, that Balogun red card reversal was merely a distraction to take away all the attention from Argentina and the help they're getting from refs.

I was watching a few videos of Argentina fans celebrating their wins, and all of them were talking in an American accent. They're all most likely locals who are Messi fans and who know USMNT sucks.

The actual home team of this world cup is Argentina. We can see even @Bjerknes is fapping to Argentina soon after US' exit. The agenda is pretty clear.

Media and fans are ensuring Argentina get all the help they need.
 

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