Igor Tudor - Manager (31 Viewers)

Aug 8, 2006
83,881
Ever since that outrageous lineup against City in the CWC, I’ve been done with him, so today isn’t surprising. I didn’t even watch this game and without knowing how he performed, but starting Koopmeiners alone feels sackable at this point.

It’s the Kvckminors experimentation that truly bothers me. He should not be starting over other more producing players. It’s similar to Al-legri obsession with Kvckminors predecessors


And next to Locatelli with a Swiss cheese defense has proven that it doesn’t work
 

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,858
Dropped a lot of points to some weak teams recently.

None of Dortmund, Verona, Atalanta and Villarreal are better than us. We shouldn't have only taken 4 points from them.
No but they all have better coaches than us.

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This guy's decisions are dreadful.

- His starting line-ups are terrible.
- We need someone attacking opposite from Yildiz. If Chico is fit it should be him every time.
- We aren't good enough at defending to invite pressure. There was no reason to encourage it.
- Vlahovic as a sub when we are defending at the edge of our box is idiotic, especially when you have Openda on the bench who is fast and can run into channels.
Bro, the whole fucking formation is terrible. This guy has no business coaching any top side at all. And somehow he convinced the dipshit Comolli to not only keep him but also fluff his shitbag system with moronic signings like Joao Mario. It’s all a loss. We need to start over.
 

Espectro

The Grimreaper
Jul 12, 2002
14,677
No but they all have better coaches than us.

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Bro, the whole fucking formation is terrible. This guy has no business coaching any top side at all. And somehow he convinced the dipshit Comolli to not only keep him but also fluff his shitbag system with moronic signings like Joao Mario. It’s all a loss. We need to start over.
He did not convince anybody... our dumb management lost on the coaches we wanted to get, panic and keep him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Tudor at all, but the reality is that Tudor was only supposed to be an interim coach, and due to poor management decisions, they had to keep him on because they lost the coaching goals they wanted.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,858
He did not convince anybody... our dumb management lost on the coaches we wanted to get, panic and keep him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Tudor at all, but the reality is that Tudor was only supposed to be an interim coach, and due to poor management decisions, they had to keep him on because they lost the coaching goals they wanted.
Yes but the reassuring thing about this is that Comolli doesn’t want to take risks. So that’s good because that falls in line with being Italian even though he’s French.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,955
Conte looks to have revived Hojlund. I'm pretty sure if he played for us, he would look like a Danish version of Amauri.

You guys can keep criticizing the players but we need a top coach. A top coach would have clarity on the profile of players his team needs. Tutor is just happy to be here, playing his stupid system and accept whatever the management throws at him.

Union have been making the same mistake of signing hipster bums/one season wonder coaches for years and years

This team is young and inexperienced. Ideally, you'd need an experienced, established coach to steady the ship. The lack of leadership is pretty evident.

For example, Conte would have eaten Cambiaso alive if he dared to try his stupid showboating tricks in dangerous areas or defend like a clown.

Unfortunately the window of getting a top coach has passed. Our best bet was Conte and we fluffed that opportunity as usual. Prepare for more years of mediocrity recycling and rehashing terrible coaches/players.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,582
Conte looks to have revived Hojlund. I'm pretty sure if he played for us, he would look like a Danish version of Amauri.

You guys can keep criticizing the players but we need a top coach. A top coach would have clarity on the profile of players his team needs. Tutor is just happy to be here, playing his stupid system and accept whatever the management throws at him.

Union have been making the same mistake of signing hipster bums/one season wonder coaches for years and years

This team is young and inexperienced. Ideally, you'd need an experienced, established coach to steady the ship. The lack of leadership is pretty evident.

For example, Conte would have eaten Cambiaso alive if he dared to try his stupid showboating tricks in dangerous areas or defend like a clown.

Unfortunately the window of getting a top coach has passed. Our best bet was Conte and we fluffed that opportunity as usual. Prepare for more years of mediocrity recycling and rehashing terrible coaches/players.
Chances are very real for a Conte return in the near future IF Comolli still fancies that. Pretty sure Chiello will push that notion and Conte will probably come back running once we get some more shiny toys for him in midfield and defence.

Tudor was and is always going to be a short-term ferryman to oversee another year of chasing the CL qualification trophy.
 
Dec 21, 2012
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- Vlahovic as a sub when we are defending at the edge of our box is idiotic, especially when you have Openda on the bench who is fast and can run into channels.
I think he introduced him to increase the height of the team when we were planning to close ourselves in our own penalty box :lol:.

Other than that I think he should've introduced both Vlahovic and Openda way earlier. Two players who thrive attacking spaces yet he subbed in Adzic :wallbang:
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
7,072
One thing is for sure, i’ve already seen too many experiments and way too much of this fitting square pegs in round holes tactics while giving extensive chances to certain players that are massively underperforming or are beyond salvaging at this stage, this simply can’t continue if we really want to be a serious club…

Got to have more clarity and make sure to focus primarily on our certainties otherwise it’s going to be a downwards trajectory from here on.
 

Akshen

Senior Member
Aug 27, 2010
11,308
How is he planning to attack, when he:
- plays CBs at wing back positions,
- plays 2 attackers in the starting line up,
We can pretend, Koop is an attacking minded player, but in reality all he attacks is my patience with his displays.
We had Yildiz and David, the rest of the players were defensive minded mostly, how do we plan to attack with this kind of setup? I understand it worked once vs Inter, but we wont get that lucky all the time.
 
Mar 3, 2017
3,365
Conte looks to have revived Hojlund. I'm pretty sure if he played for us, he would look like a Danish version of Amauri.

You guys can keep criticizing the players but we need a top coach. A top coach would have clarity on the profile of players his team needs. Tutor is just happy to be here, playing his stupid system and accept whatever the management throws at him.

Union have been making the same mistake of signing hipster bums/one season wonder coaches for years and years

This team is young and inexperienced. Ideally, you'd need an experienced, established coach to steady the ship. The lack of leadership is pretty evident.

For example, Conte would have eaten Cambiaso alive if he dared to try his stupid showboating tricks in dangerous areas or defend like a clown.

Unfortunately the window of getting a top coach has passed. Our best bet was Conte and we fluffed that opportunity as usual. Prepare for more years of mediocrity recycling and rehashing terrible coaches/players.
Absolutely agree. Tbh ever since we didn't get Conte and confirmed Tudor I accepted that we will not compete for the scudetto. Given the expectations I think Tudor is doing fine, at least Im excited to watch Juve games.

In a league where there are Conte, Allegri, and Gasperini among top teams we are certainly not going to win with Tudor. That's the reality of the situation and that is of course not Tudor's fault. We failed to sign Conte, I understand that as he choses whatever he wants to do, and I guess ADL convinced him. It does look like we gave it a good try.

Why didn't we sign Gasperini though? We signed Tudor who plays 3421 while the absolute master of the 3421 went to Roma. The guy who made Koopmeiners the best midfielder in Serie A, and who is a Juve fan and has coached in our youth setup. Now he has somehow built a wall at Roma, they've conceded only 1 goal in Serie A with equally mediocre CBs as we have. Juve will be Tudor's university, he will become a better coach here and I think he will do well enough, but we won't win Serie A while other teams make more ambitious choices.
 

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