Serie A 2022-23 (9 Viewers)

maxi

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Aug 31, 2006
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exactly. to put it into perspective, my stepfather just called me to tell me that orbán wants to bring the italian super cup to hungary. i told him i read the news in the italian press. he asked whether i knew what stadium would host the match. i said i suppose the national stadium at budapest. he said i was wrong, orbán wanted the match to be held at felcsút, in the stadium next to his very own family house :baus:

that is the stadium btw: https://www.pfla.hu/index.php/eredm...14_2002/2016-06-11/3471?q=static/pancho_arena

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it's a beautiful little stadium with a moderate capacity (3500 seats), not the ideal venue for an italian supercup. but at least it's close to orbán's back yard. :baus:
That actually looks gorgeous. Shame about the seating capacity
 

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Badass Management

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Feb 12, 2006
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The same logic about marketability applies to hosting the match in some oil country.

But the bottom line is always the $ amount. See LIV for example.

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Very possible
LIV is not even that well marketed considering none of the big tv networks can even broadcast it due to their contractual obligations to the PGA, in fact the first LIV event which took place about 10 mins away from where I live was a stream only broadcast. Even so most of the golfers on the LIV roster are practically in their twilight years in their careers that most dont really care about.
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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Don't they allways play it in Saudi Arabia, for less money? (3m), Hungary close to home and better pay.


But why is the president of a country involved sports deal lol. Would assumed would been a lower level tourism marketing matter.
Orban is a wanna-be autocrat. They all act like this.
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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FIGC president Gabriele Gravina outlined the plans to reform Italian football and spoke about the team’s development under Roberto Mancini.

The Azzurri managed to avoid suffering relegation from their Nations League group after beating England 1-0 yesterday at San Siro, allowing the team to breathe a sigh of relief. Although Italy failed to qualify for the upcoming World Cup in Qatar, Mancini has stayed on as head coach and now the path begins to Euro 2024, the Azzurri’s next major tournament.

Speaking at the Trento Sports Festival, Gravina first reacted to Italy’s win over England and the growth of the team in recent months.

“On the Italian national team I can say that the project is going ahead. In 24 hours we have gone from relegation risk to a possible win in the group. Defending the position will allow us a better position at the next draw for the European Championship.

“We have many injured players, but also many young players. I thank the clubs for their availability, the young players and Roberto Mancini, who with his work allows us to move forward.”

He commented on the foundations laid to help reform Italian football in the coming years.

“We have to enrich our world and find shared solutions. Everyone must play a part in this, including the political side. There are many points to work on, one of the objectives is to bring great competition back to our country.

“Then the youth systems and the infrastructure. On the former we will move with a technical department that will be led by two top players in the sector to enhance the 50 federal centres.

“With the president of the Lega Serie A, Casini, we will make sure to give young players the chance to be included in the teams. Infrastructure is indispensable, in the meantime we are candidates for Euro 2032.”

The FIGC president discussed the financial issues currently plaguing Italian football and the solutions.

“Another fundamental issue is that of revenues. It is a problem, it exists. We also have to reduce costs, we are careful and strict in checking the sustainability and solvency of clubs. These are elements of survival. Our sustainability in the world of football is also social.

“On December 21 there will be a General Assembly to plan the development and reform of Italian football. We want to remove the right of veto from each component which doesn’t allow us to find unity of intent on an issue that cannot be postponed.”

Finally, Gravina underlined the need for serious changes in Italian football to help right the ship after a tough few years.

“Italian football must change. Our system can no longer function in this way. The change must be welcomed as an opportunity and not as a threat and must be the basis of the reform that our movement has needed for some time.”
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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thanks for posting. what a load of rubbish though. italian football's problems exist mainly because of old bigots like gravina. like he would have one single idea that might work. i imagine his reforms: introduce playoffs, no superleague, suppress juventus, salary caps, strict financial rules.

or maybe he thinks that playoffs would suffice lol

ffs look at the instant impact of new stadiums at torino and udine, italian football needs investments more than anything else

screw that interista idiot
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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Italian football first of all needs a PR firm and an ambitious broadcaster. Youd think that after 2 decades theyd caught on and would start making the same changes EPL did in the early 00ties, but I guess theyre more than 20 years behind. Still havent realised that theyre in the entertainment business.
 
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AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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Italian football first of all needs a PR firm and an ambitious broadcaster. Youd think that after 2 decades theyd caught on and would start making the same changes EPL did in the early 00ties, but I guess theyre more than 20 years behind. Still havent realised that theyre in the entertainment business.
PL had Richard Scudamore , i cant see anyone in that mould for Italy. But this article i like the most is the reform on the youth sector. We know how they threw out Baggio's plan earlier. Interested to know who the two players who will lead this .
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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there's 20 little things you can fix in the product which will help bring the funds needed for new stadiums.
https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2022/...nvestitori-per-colmare-il-gap-con-la-premier/

even pozzo starts his list with stadiums, then he adds capital and investors. pr/broadcasting can come after, but it's not a priority as nobody would be able to sell serie a games played in old venues with terrible pitches. first you improve your product, then you can start selling the improved product for a higher price. serie a failed to capitalize on ronaldo's impact, the only thing they did was to drop juve's share of the tv revenues lol. what a way to thank the club that made serie a relevant for a year or two.

gravina's potential reforms on youth football take many, many years to come to fruition. those very few italian examples and the the majority of epl are the proof that stadiums provide instant impact on the club's revenue. italian football has many things to fix, but infrastructure (and related bureaucracy) is by far the most important one.
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2022/...nvestitori-per-colmare-il-gap-con-la-premier/

even pozzo starts his list with stadiums, then he adds capital and investors. pr/broadcasting can come after, but it's not a priority as nobody would be able to sell serie a games played in old venues with terrible pitches. first you improve your product, then you can start selling the improved product for a higher price. serie a failed to capitalize on ronaldo's impact, the only thing they did was to drop juve's share of the tv revenues lol. what a way to thank the club that made serie a relevant for a year or two.

gravina's potential reforms on youth football take many, many years to come to fruition. those very few italian examples and the the majority of epl are the proof that stadiums provide instant impact on the club's revenue. italian football has many things to fix, but infrastructure (and related bureaucracy) is by far the most important one.
sure, stadiums are the priority and Italy should've been aiming to host a big tournament for many years to help with that. but the product could be sold so much better already, even with the existing struggles

f.e. compare the tv filters on Milan-Inter:
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vs EPL:

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shouldn't Italy be the sunny, shiny one and England the gloomy, foggy one?
 

Clamarc

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Sep 26, 2018
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sure, stadiums are the priority and Italy should've been aiming to host a big tournament for many years to help with that. but the product could be sold so much better already, even with the existing struggles

f.e. compare the tv filters on Milan-Inter:
1664201958945.png


vs EPL:

1664202008191.png


shouldn't Italy be the sunny, shiny one and England the gloomy, foggy one?
It's the pitch. Juve stadium pitch is look like the EPL one
 
Aug 2, 2005
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https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2022/...nvestitori-per-colmare-il-gap-con-la-premier/

even pozzo starts his list with stadiums, then he adds capital and investors. pr/broadcasting can come after, but it's not a priority as nobody would be able to sell serie a games played in old venues with terrible pitches. first you improve your product, then you can start selling the improved product for a higher price. serie a failed to capitalize on ronaldo's impact, the only thing they did was to drop juve's share of the tv revenues lol. what a way to thank the club that made serie a relevant for a year or two.

gravina's potential reforms on youth football take many, many years to come to fruition. those very few italian examples and the the majority of epl are the proof that stadiums provide instant impact on the club's revenue. italian football has many things to fix, but infrastructure (and related bureaucracy) is by far the most important one.
Well
Fuck Italy..

Once the heaven of football
Now
Fuck shit everywhere


Stupid stadiums
Boring football
No talent at all..
 

Badass Management

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Feb 12, 2006
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Italian football first of all needs a PR firm and an ambitious broadcaster. Youd think that after 2 decades theyd caught on and would start making the same changes EPL did in the early 00ties, but I guess theyre more than 20 years behind. Still havent realised that theyre in the entertainment business.
It's Italy... they'll dig up facchetti's corpse and put him in charge of the league before Italy realises someone youthful with vision, proper reforms and frankly quite obvious changes need to be made.
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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sure, stadiums are the priority and Italy should've been aiming to host a big tournament for many years to help with that. but the product could be sold so much better already, even with the existing struggles

f.e. compare the tv filters on Milan-Inter:
1664201958945.png


vs EPL:

1664202008191.png


shouldn't Italy be the sunny, shiny one and England the gloomy, foggy one?
First picture is a real life view of the pitch.
The second one is a false rendered one. Probably oversaturated green.

I for one, would prefere the first one.
 

Siamak

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Serie A clubs ranked by average age:

Milan: 25 years and 9 months
Napoli: 26 years and 3 months
Juventus: 27 years and 2 months
Roma: 27 years and 7 months
Lazio: 28 years and 3 months
Inter: 29 years and 1 month

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